caleb hughes

Abstract

The 81 year old Cleo Bell was interviewed by her great nephew Caleb Hughes. He asks her questions about the civil rights. She talks about the discrimination of schools and the work places. She also talks about the difference of living in tennessee and New York. She talks about self segregation. The self segregation is indirect.


Research

Segregation usually has to do with African Americans and other races during the jim crow era. It is mostly used with race. The schools were separated in the south as well as work. In the south they were still under jim crow laws. There was school separation in the north. It wasn’t as common as the south but there were elements of it.


Sources

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States#In_the_South

Transcript

Cleo Bell

CH: Hello

CB: Hello caleb How are you

CH: Good. Im going to ask you some more questions. We’re going to start over because of the messed up recording.

CB okay

CH When and why did you move to south

It was your uncle’s home and he came back home his brother had a contract business  and they wanted to work together down here

Ch Was there more racism in tennessee than new york

CB of course yes the south was segregated

CH New york was not segregated ?

CB  They could not the law was in the north could to turn everyone in the south it was segregated. Black people different places they were not allowed to be served at lunch counters and there was many things that were segregated were as in the north they could not do that because it was against the law. The law was against Those were the laws i the south back then it was illegal . You had  the civil rights movements

CH Do you remember anything that to do with the civil rights movements

CB Yes black people…. It was really against the law I mean why would you segregate because the color of your skin black people were segregated in the south and that was against the law because all men in the United states are created equal and thats not equal when you segregate people because of the color of their skin

CH How did you feel about the segregated

CB Dont remind me about it. because I pay taxes like all people white people and I was not allowed to have the same freedom of being able to go in a restaurant and go to the counter and be served but yet I payed taxes like everyone else so that was not good


CH Was there discrimination in schools in tennessee

CB Yes there was certain schools that white people went to and where black people went to they did not mix the races back then and a lot of times where it was inferior for black people…….

CH What about the work places

There was certain jobs that I that black were able to do the work they did not hire us and in schools black and white children  did not sit together or go to the same school certain schools for white children and black children went the races would not mix

And what about when you were a child was it still segregated in new york or was there no law yet

No I could go to any school i wanted to go to it was not like the south where the schools were seperated  in new york it was like neighborhoods mainly if a neighborhood were a lot black thats who (dont know what was said) But at the sametime it had to do with neighborhood its was a way of being discrimminated against it was against the law on the north

and I did go to school with white students The law was against you in the south where you could not mix were as in the north you could go in the stores and buy things I remember in the southwhen I camedown here I could go in to the store and I couldn’t try the dresses because you couldn’t do that I couldn’t sit at a lunch counter and in the resturants There was certain sections that was just for black people where you eat in the back and some places you could not sit down

CH

I hope I get to see you again this summer



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