Interview with an American Air Force vet.

​Abstract:
This interview is between Mr. Perrone, an Air Force vet and I. Mr.Perrone has experienced a lot of environments with different concepts of race as well as religion as well as lived through 2 civil rights movements that happened recently.
In this interview, Mr.Perrone tells of how the concepts of race differs in other countries.

Research:
The Million Man March, a gathering of African-Americans in D.C on the October of 1995. Called on by Louis Farrakhan, it was to be held on and around the National Mall. A leading group of civil rights activists the National African American Leadership Submit, and the Nation of Islam working in conjunction with scores of civil rights organizations. Rodney King, an African-American construction worker who became nationally known after being beaten by Los Angeles Police following a high-speed car chase on March third, 1991.

Sources:
  • http://www.blackpast.org/aah/million-man-march-1995
  • http://newsone.com/2062043/million-man-march/
  • http://www.biography.com/people/rodney-king-9542141#awesm=~oFqwormE6Vt1he
  • http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/lapd/race/king.html

|Interview Transcript|
Interviewer: Zhi Zhang
Interviewee: Mr.Perrone
Interview Setting: Pier 70
Affiliation with interviewee: Friends

Transcript:

ZZ: “How’s your day, Mr.Perrone?”



CP: “Okay.”



ZZ: “I’m just gonna ask you a few questions, okay?”



CP: “Okay.”



ZZ: “What do you see the role of race in society?”



CP: “I see the role of race acts as a barrier that keep the from working together better.”



ZZ: “What did race mean to you growing up?”



CP: “Growing up, I was taught, there was a lot of stereotypes, but as i grew older I’ve found out they were untrue and I believe no one should be racist.”


ZZ: “Oh..”


ZZ: “How did the concept of race differ between the countries you’ve “visited” while in the Air Force?”


CP: “Well. Being born in America you’re exposed to every race pretty much in the world, but when you travel to other countries it’s more populated by one race and there’s usually small pockets of people (foreigners) from other countries and they stood out more than in America.”


ZZ: (Muffled) “Interesting.”


ZZ: “What’s by far the most racist countries you’ve “visited”?”


CP: “I would say Turkey, and Egypt. I would say it was race and religion driven.”


ZZ: “Can you give me some details?”


CP: “I would say it was more or less not that you’re the race they were “against” when you were there they were more or less you’re anti their religion (You were against their religion), so they didn’t like you for mainly that reason.”


ZZ: (Muffled) “Huh…”


ZZ: “Did your concept of race change as you travel around the world as a military personnel?”


CP: Yes. My concept changed because I got to see all faces of the world and it shows better not to see race and live among everybody in harmony.


ZZ: (Muffled) Interesting.


ZZ: “Did you experience any civil rights movements during your lifetime?”


CP: “Yes, I lived through the “million-man march”, and I also.. um.. was growing up during the Rodney King incident.”


ZZ: “How old were you?”


CP: “I was in highschool during both events.”


ZZ: (Muffled) “Huh..”


ZZ: “Were you anyway affected by these movements?”


CP: “Yes, the race-riots affected a lot of commerce for about a week. And a lot of infrastructure -and houses were burned and businesses were broken into and looted.”


ZZ: (Muffled) “Huh..”


ZZ: “Did you have any experiences with the Ku Klux Klan?”


CP: “Yes. I was stationed down in South Carolina, and I happened to accidentally date a one of the members nieces, and from being from Italy my family, um , they do not see white people. They see, um, Caucasian in the only race so even if you’re white and Italian, or Spanish, you’re still, uh, not like by them.”


ZZ:(Muffled)(Sick): “Huh.. I never knew that..”


ZZ: “How did the Klansmen treat you?”


CP: “Since they knew I was not “white” and they consider Italian not white, they told me to turn around and do not come back here ever again.”


ZZ: (Muffled-Muffled): “Huh.”


ZZ: “Has your encounter with the Klan changed your concept of race?”


CP: “Yes, it makes me feel sorry for the people who has to deal with racism and I wish it would go away.”


ZZ: “Alright, thank you for your time Mr. Perrone.”


CP: “You’re welcome.”


Interview [Final]

Oral History- Dior Thompson

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Abstract:

Dior Thompson interviews her Great Grandmother (84 year old, Earlene McCullough nee Beft) on how her life was growing up in time where segregation was prominent. Dior touches basis on where her family was born, what personal experiences she was exposed to, and the types of different radio stations that blacks and whites listened to separately. They talked about what it was like living in a time when Martin Luther king was alive, and what type of changes started to come about and her families part in the Great Migration. Earlene being the youngest of 8 never really experienced as much hate geared towards her like her other family did. * She will refer to her as Nana, at times during the interview” *


Research:

The great migration is the movement of large amounts of blacks (about 6 million) moving to the northestates. The majority of blacks moved to major northern cities like Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh and New York. Although by the end of World War 2, many of them moved to the West.

The economy was one of the reasons why blacks wanting to move. Since being freed from slavery, southerners had only few job choices.Many in order to provide were forced to turn to sharecropping, tenant farming or becoming a farm laborer. Shortage of jobs was a big issue in the South, so most just up and left. Another was the harsh laws against them. *The dates vary but some say the great migration started in 1915 or 16. Other sources say it started in 1900.*


Sources:

http://www.blackpast.org/aah/great-migration-1915-1960

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_migration.html

http://www.history.com/topics/black-history/great-migration








DT: "This is Dior Thompson & a Mrs.Earlene McCullough , who is 84 years old. It is 6:07 May 23rd"

DT: Nana?

EM: Yes?

DT: where were you born?

EM: Here, In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

DT: Okay and where was your mother's family born?

EM: My mother's was born in Wilmington, North Carolina.

DT: And where was your father's born ?

EM: In Goldsboro, North Carolina.

DT: When you were younger did you experience any type of segregation?

EM:Yes

DT: can you give me example?

EM:Once I visited my aunt in Coatesville, and as I was walking down Main Street, a person called me thee "N- Word"

DT: Was your family apart of the great migration living in North Carolina?

EM:was my family what?

DT: part of the great migration

EM: I guess so, I'm the youngest of eight Dior, So they did migrate from North Carolina into Philadelphia Pennsylvania , But I was born here

DT: where there any casualties in your family around that time?

EM: Any what?

DT: Casualties, like deaths?

EM:  Any tragic things?

DT: Yes

EM: Not that I remember. As, I said I was born here the others were born in North Carolina.

DT: Did they tell you of any things that happened to them? Can you tell me some of the things that happened to them?

EM: They did say that they had experienced some segregation, of course everybody did. At that particular time, that's why neighbor migrating up North for betterment.

DT:  were you ever directly involved in any raids or marches?

EM: No, it didn't happen?

DT: I know that the new Negro Network was established, it was like radio stations and stuff. Did you listen to segregated radio stations? Do you remember the names of any?

The same radio stations we always had were "KYW" I would say that one.

DT: Where did you live? What was your childhood like? Were you wealthy, well off? Did you live in an low income family?

EM: I didn't experience anything because, since I was the youngest, my family always found a way to provide for me okay. I was thee 8th child.

DT: when you were younger growing up, did you have any friends that were from a different race than you? Did you ever get that chance to have friends at a young age who were of a different race?

EM: When I was coming up, no, basically all my friends were all people of color.

DT: What was it like to live during the time of Martin Luther King?

EM:  I would say I had a pretty good life you know things were changing at that particular time. the change was coming at that particular time when Dr King born.

DT:  were you surprised when he was assassinated?

EM: I certainly was

DT: did you ever feel as if you would  live to see the first African American president?

EM: ..?

DT: Did you ever believe that you'd be able to see an African american president come into office?

EM: I guess yeah because that would be, I didn't know when but I'm sure that it was going to happen but I didn't know when of course.

DT:  did your mother or father ever tell you what their childhood was like?

EM: yes

DT: can you explain to me please?

EM:  my mother and my father live in the city of Wilmington North Carolina, in a house that they had there. Where they raised my siblings.  which was my other 7 sisters and brothers.  my father always worked , and my mother was always a domesticate. Domesticate , which meant she always stayed home and raised us children.

DT:  what is the  saddest event that you remember from that time?

* Tape Ends*




Oral history interview

Abstract
I Zykai Gibbs interviewed my 80 year old neighbor Annie Tomas on May 20, 2014. In this interview I ask her about her experiences with the Civil Rights Movement  and how being black effected her life. she isn't very detailed in how she answered some of the questions but what she provided me was good enough. The questions that I asked were about the voting acts and the marches and how she coped with being treated like a second class citizen for all those years . In this interview she tells all about how she watched the marches and the Freedom Rides and more.

Research 
During the interview one of the subjects that we touched on was the Freedom Rides.  civil rights activists who rode interstate buses into the segregated southern United States in 1961 and following years to challenge the non-enforcement of the United States Supreme Court decisions Irene Morgan v. Commonwealth of Virginia 1946 and Boynton v. Virginia 1960, which ruled that segregated public buses were unconstitutional. The Southern states had ignored the rulings and the federal government did nothing to enforce them. 
interview Ms.Ann
Transcript

Zykai- Um.. my name is Annie Tomas. Date 5-20-14,  Location, 1823 foulkrod street. Alright, question one: How old were you during the Civil Rights movement?


Tomas-  OK……. lets see…….. The Civil Rights Movement became during Martin Luther King time right?


Zykai- um-hum


Tomas-  OK I was like ummm….. 60.., 58 or 60…. let me see umm… Kennedy died at 63…. Martin Luther king died at…. um around that time, they both, both died about, about the same time I, I think about 63.


Zykai- 63?


Tomas- um-hum


Zykai- alright so question number 2: Growing up during this time how did you react to what was going on around you?


Tomas-  Oh it was very.. very frustrating, very hurtful to how the-, how black peo-, can you say black people


Zykai- yeah you can say black people


Tomas - Black people being treated….. and what not, the kids trying go to school, and had to be shut out of school, you know… the first black girl  i think was going to school, she was young….. um and they ha-, they let her go out of school, you know they had um… well participate had

the Civil Rights movement march, fought, they fought, and you know a group fought  and

that meant  she couldn't go to school, I don’t think she got killed I think she got hurt.


Zykai -  umm, alright question number three how old were you to understand what was going on, what was your age?


Tomas- Ok


Zykai- i mean , when you found out all this was going on and you were able to understand, what was your age?

Tomas- no I did never go on the march because it was dangerous. People were getting killed, people were Zykai- Um.. my name is Annie Tomas. Date 5-20-14,  Location, 1823 foulkrod street. Alright, question one: How old were you during the Civil Rights movement?


Tomas-  OK……. lets see…….. The Civil Rights Movement became during Martin Luther King time right?


Zykai- um-hum


Tomas-  OK I was like ummm….. 60.., 58 or 60…. let me see umm… Kennedy died at 63…. Martin Luther king died at…. um around that time, they both, both died about, about the same time I, I think about 63.


Zykai- 63?


Tomas- um-hum


Zykai- alright so question number 2: Growing up during this time how did you react to what was going on around you?


Tomas-  Oh it was very.. very frustrating, very hurtful to how the-, how black peo-, can you say black people


Zykai- yeah you can say black people


Tomas - Black people being treated….. and what not, the kids trying go to school, and had to be shut out of school, you know… the first black girl  i think was going to school, she was

Tomas- no I did never go on the march because it was dangerous. People were getting killed, people were Zykai- Um.. my name is Annie Tomas. Date 5-20-14,  Location, 1823 foulkrod street. Alright, question one: How old were you during the Civil Rights movement?

Tomas-  OK……. lets see…….. The Civil Rights Movement became during Martin Luther King time right?


Zykai- um-hum


Tomas-  OK I was like ummm….. 60.., 58 or 60…. let me see umm… Kennedy died at 63…. Martin Luther king died at…. um around that time, they both, both died about, about the same time I, I think about 63.


Zykai- 63?


Tomas- um-hum


Zykai- alright so question number 2: Growing up during this time how did you react to what was going on around you?


Tomas-  Oh it was very.. very frustrating, very hurtful to how the-, how black peo-, can you say black people


Zykai- yeah you can say black people


Tomas - Black people being treated….. and what not, the kids trying go to school, and had to be shut out of school, you know… the first black girl  i think was going to school, she was

Zykai - Question number 6: did your parents ever vote?


Tomas- no


Zykai- were your parents ever able to vote?

Tomas - in their time of living it wasn't voting, it might have been something called voting but it wasn't voting per-say.  Voting came along after the death of both my parents.

Zykai- Alright, Question number 7: did you ever vote? I know you vote now because I seen you walk out today, but back then as you were growing up around your 20s, did you ever vote for anything.

Tomas- 21 I was going around voting for things pratining black people.

Zykai- Question number 8: DId you ever meet any historical black figures, like Rosa Parks, or Martin Luther King?

Tomas- um… Well Martin Luther King, I was in a couple of his sechions, meetions stuff, but he died young. Umm Rosa Parks, I just know, I read about her, I’ve seen her on television, the first black woman go on the bus, an- and wanted her to sit on the back of the bus. Martin Luther King was the first black man to really get up in the crongressation and speak on the Civil Rights Movement, I watched him on televison, never would go to any of his meetings, but I’ve seen alot of his meetings on TV

Zykai- Question number 9: were you participating in any African American rallies , like asking questions?

Tomas- no there was always a crowd, different people would ask questions, but I never got to ask or answer a question, I would be standing around watching and listening to what was going on.

[ recording stops]

Zykai- So number 10: who is your favorite African American Historian?

Tomas- Martin Luther King because of what he did for blacks.

caleb hughes

Abstract

The 81 year old Cleo Bell was interviewed by her great nephew Caleb Hughes. He asks her questions about the civil rights. She talks about the discrimination of schools and the work places. She also talks about the difference of living in tennessee and New York. She talks about self segregation. The self segregation is indirect.


Research

Segregation usually has to do with African Americans and other races during the jim crow era. It is mostly used with race. The schools were separated in the south as well as work. In the south they were still under jim crow laws. There was school separation in the north. It wasn’t as common as the south but there were elements of it.


Sources

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States#In_the_South

Transcript

Cleo Bell

CH: Hello

CB: Hello caleb How are you

CH: Good. Im going to ask you some more questions. We’re going to start over because of the messed up recording.

CB okay

CH When and why did you move to south

It was your uncle’s home and he came back home his brother had a contract business  and they wanted to work together down here

Ch Was there more racism in tennessee than new york

CB of course yes the south was segregated

CH New york was not segregated ?

CB  They could not the law was in the north could to turn everyone in the south it was segregated. Black people different places they were not allowed to be served at lunch counters and there was many things that were segregated were as in the north they could not do that because it was against the law. The law was against Those were the laws i the south back then it was illegal . You had  the civil rights movements

CH Do you remember anything that to do with the civil rights movements

CB Yes black people…. It was really against the law I mean why would you segregate because the color of your skin black people were segregated in the south and that was against the law because all men in the United states are created equal and thats not equal when you segregate people because of the color of their skin

CH How did you feel about the segregated

CB Dont remind me about it. because I pay taxes like all people white people and I was not allowed to have the same freedom of being able to go in a restaurant and go to the counter and be served but yet I payed taxes like everyone else so that was not good


CH Was there discrimination in schools in tennessee

CB Yes there was certain schools that white people went to and where black people went to they did not mix the races back then and a lot of times where it was inferior for black people…….

CH What about the work places

There was certain jobs that I that black were able to do the work they did not hire us and in schools black and white children  did not sit together or go to the same school certain schools for white children and black children went the races would not mix

And what about when you were a child was it still segregated in new york or was there no law yet

No I could go to any school i wanted to go to it was not like the south where the schools were seperated  in new york it was like neighborhoods mainly if a neighborhood were a lot black thats who (dont know what was said) But at the sametime it had to do with neighborhood its was a way of being discrimminated against it was against the law on the north

and I did go to school with white students The law was against you in the south where you could not mix were as in the north you could go in the stores and buy things I remember in the southwhen I camedown here I could go in to the store and I couldn’t try the dresses because you couldn’t do that I couldn’t sit at a lunch counter and in the resturants There was certain sections that was just for black people where you eat in the back and some places you could not sit down

CH

I hope I get to see you again this summer



Oral History

Abstract

Hello, This is Tiffany Irick . Today, I will be providing you full audio by Myself interviewing Rite Brunton. This Audio is for a 4th quarter project Oral History. The question asked are to be answered by the interviewee to re-cap on any memories about the civil rights movement times. I had interview Rita in Her home. We figured it would be best. As our interviewee answers these questions she thinks about the things the african americans had to go through. Hope you enjoy the audio for the Oral history Project. She talked about the things that went on in her life as a young girl. She provided bits of information that she remembered.

Research-

My interviewee had said a couple of this that caught my eyes. One things she had said went something like this “ ….we played baseball with hispanics.” At that moment I looked back and wanted to research things about hispanics being around or in company with the blacks. So on the http://www.tolerance.org/latino-civil-rights-timeline link 1953 During "Operation Wetback" from 1953 and 1958, the U.S. Immigration Service arrests and deports more than 3.8 million Latin Americans. Many U.S. citizens are deported unfairly, including political activist Luisa Moreno and other community leaders.

1954 Hernandez v. Texas is the first post-WWII Latino civil rights case heard and decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. The Hernandez decision strikes down discrimination based on class and ethnic distinctions.

I found out that In the civil rights movement there wasn't just black people involved, there were other races like the latios involved trying to get freedom. There are two happenings dated in the link .

Also in the audio interview Rita had said something about the marches in the civil rights movement. I decided to look up some more information about the marches held in america. http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/articles/62/the-civil-rights-movement-in-mississippi-on-violence-and-nonviolence in this link it had some distrubing things in the article writen. It talked about violence and racism. From there I realized that it wasn't just a march but it was a war basically.


Transcript-

TI- Today i will be doing a project on oral history and I wanted to ask you a couple of questions.


can i ask you what is your name and when and where were you born?


RB-MY name is Rita Bruton/ yuillei how do you spell that? Y-U-I-L-L-E-I I was born july the 5th 1948 and richmond virginia.


TI when growing up what were some things you couldn't do or what was something you could do.

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RB-some things that i was not aloud to do was stay out late at night i would have to be in the house about 8 o'clock or on the steps.


okay umm


somethings i was aloud to do was like play baseball, kick ball


TI-did you play baseball with white kids?


RB-umm no it was like hispanic kids


TI-hispanic


TI-was you aloud to play baseball with white kids?


RB-Yes if there were any around


TI-and in your neighborhood were there any around?


RB-no there was no white kids in my neighborhood


TI-umm how did people act when they seen your skin color around


RB-umm are you talking about white people? Anybody pertaining to race.


RB-well there was no reaction but sometime when you would get on the bus there was white kids on there they would act like they didn’t want you to sit beside them and different things like that


TI-so did that ever happen to you?


RB-umm no not to me, not to me per say


TI-did any white kids act like they were frighten or feel like they were scared of you


RB-umm no


TI-did they speak to you?


RB-yeah


TI-when you was younger did you like your skin color?


RB-yes i loved my skin color


TI-do you like your skin color today?


RB-yes i do


TI-how do you feel about race back then


RB-i wasn’t a racist, race didn’t matter to me black, white purple green whatever you still is a human being to me


TI-what do you remember about the civil rights movements


RB-they were on march, they went on different marches and white people would throw stones and stuff at the people that was marching in the civil rights march


TI-were you involved


RB-no i was not


TI-was your parents involved?


RB-no not that i know of, no my parent wasn't


TI-how did your mother react towards race did she like black people or white people, my mother didn't act funny towards no other races, do you know any times she was involved in racism with racism from a white person


RB- no, no



TI-how was your education experience?

RB-compared to the education now mines was marvellous because they taught us much better we had more activities to do in school and everything


TI-and, and so how do you feel about the world today


RB-the world today is crazy .


TI-do you feel like they were more racist now or back then when you were younger


RB-they were more racist back then than now


TI-why would you say that


RB-what the worlds more crazy?


TI-no that they were more racist


RB-because the way they acted back then, black people had to sit in back of the bus and white people had to in the front of the bus, they didn't want black and whites together as girlfriends and boyfriends a lot of black kids weren't allowed to play with the white kids they couldn't go in the same store if they did they had to go through the back door. thats the reason why i say that


TI-right so when you heard those stories did you feel some type of way


RB-i felt sad , for the kids and other people that had to go through that but i didn't take it out on other people


TI-right. well that you for the interview, ah wait i wanted to ask you another question, how do you feel about martin luther king and malcolm x.


RB-well i really didn't get into so much about malcolm x but martin luther king i felt as though he was a great man a great person because he tried to help everyone white,black whatever color he had not racism in him i think he was a great man


TI-so did your mother meet martin luther king,


RB-no not that i know of,


TI- right, okay thank you for the interview


Audio- here is my audio link , It wouldnt let me post to the media files it said there was a error abroad. https://slabeeber.instructure.com/courses/341/assignments/9453/submissions/827?preview=1&rand=203257#

"it seem like it was a series of assassinations"

Abstract:

This interview is between a librarian, Ms. Jean and I. During the time of the Civil rights movement Ms. Jean was between 13-15 yrs old. She lived with her family in Philadelphia in a pretty much segregated neighborhood. Her 3 older sisters was attending high school, Cardinal Dougherty High school were they was some incident between the white and the black students. She talks about Malcolm X and how he was look upon by the adults at the time. She also mention how she saw things as a child at the time.


Research:

One of the Civil Rights Movement’s figure was Malcolm X. He was born May 19,1925 and died February 21. 1965. Malcolm X had a big influence with the Muslimamics. He wasn’t look upon favorable to adults base on what the person I interview said. I can understand that because from my research on Malcolm X, I found that he was applying the opposite of Martin Luther King beliefs. One of Malcolm X famous quote, “ by any means necessary” this encourage African American to use violence in order to have equal rights with white people. He was also involve in a group that used violence in the protest for the Civil Rights movement.  



Interview Transcript.

Interviewer: Me (Leyitha Princesse Achoute)

Interviewee: Ms. Jean ( the librarian)

Interview setting: At the free library of philadelphia.

Affiliation with interviewee: She’s a librarian that’s at the library I usually goes to.


( Start of interview)

Me: May I ask what your name please?

Ms. J: My name is Jean

Me: (voice fading in background) You work at the library

Ms.J: I work at the library.

Me: So ma’am what do you recall about the Civil Rights Movement?

Ms.J: Ok umh the one umh memory that comes to mind is after umh Martin Luther King was assassinated umh I think I was in the seven grades. And I was pretty much in a non integrated neighborhood it was pretty much a white neighborhood that I grew up in. Umh and then there was a period where they were some unrasted (???) seem like people were upset and I do remember maybe an occasion my sisters were in high school so they were in a more integrated school and they were problems between the white and black students. … It didn’t seem to me, it was minor problems. I mean they might have been the occasion where they talk about rocks got throwing at the bus or that kind of thing. But it seem to me that they didn’t feel afraid and they and I never feel afraid. It seem like my parents and the adults in my life were very scared. But as it , I didn’t see it as a...uhm as a scary time but it seems like the adults made it seem more serious.

Me: Do you remember about what school your sisters went?

Ms. J: It was Cardinal Dougherty High school it was, it’s close now but it umh it was like at second and Olney.

Me: ( fading in the background) Is in Pennsylvania

Ms.J: Yes it was in Philadelphia

Me: Do you recall any big events that might put umh, any big events that happened?

Ms.J:  I don’t that’s what I mean I just remember, I just remember it seem like it was a series of assassinations it was umh John F. Kennedy, than it was his brother and I know that they were somehow involved in the Civil Rights Movement but as a child I didn’t realized the significance of umh what they were doing  and how that was effecting in the Civil Right Movement. Umh and I do remember with like Martin Luther King he seem like a positive figure and uhm again it was like a tragedy when he was assassinated. But then I do remember than I think Malcolm X was also assassinated around the time or he was killed not sure but that seem more he didn’t seem to be looked upon as favorably uhm by the adults uhm he didn’t seem to be as much of a moder say as like John (pres. John F. Kennedy), and Robert (pres. John F. Kennedy’s brother) and Martin ( Martin Luther King) like they seem like they were kinda moders (???) for the cause were as with Malcolm X although I think he was also part of the Civil rights movement but probably like a more radical way but that didn’t seem to be as much of a tragedy when that happened.

Me: Why did you think Malcolm X wasn’t that wasn’t favorable to the adults?

Ms.J:  I didn’t know as a child but as an adult uhm when I read his autobiography and I know that the umh had umh started out a umh he broke the law and he was in prison for a time and that’s actually when he found his religion and umh but I think because he was he was probably associated with with  umh radical probably a more radical group and probably the fact with the muslim religion they probably were uncomfortable with that because I was raised Catholic.

(Movement in the background)

Me: Thank you for your time, thank you very much.

"EVERY MAN WILL BE EQUAL", "Is all I can remember"

​Reasearch:

One topic that my grandmom kept on discussing was the fact that she was not able to go and eat with white people and resturaunts were segregated. I didnt find this that interesting but she did so we continued to talk about. She expressed to me how when someone would come in town they would hang the hotdogs outside of the window? Im not sure how accurate that is, but she felt strongly about it.

In comparision to the research I did based on it it sounds about right some sources I used were

Sources:

http://www.readingnaacp.org/book_justice_segregation.html

http://find.galegroup.com/gic/infomark.do?&idigest=fb720fd31d9036c1ed2d1f3a0500fcc2&type=retrieve&tabID=T001&prodId=GIC&docId=CX2831400031&sourc

http://www.crmvet.org/images/imgcoll.htm


Abstract:
Shirley will look back over some of the rough things she went through and be very hesitant to speak on them she was kinda indenial and really didnt want to go into to detail she believed that she was given a great education and that she did great in life, when she moved uo north. I know that there were a-lot of gruesome detail’s that she could have recognized but she explains after the interview that she really couldnt bring her mind to that place. She describes how the bathrooms were arranged and how life itself was.

Transcript:

JT: Good Afternoon Shirley how are you doing this afternoon

SB: Fine.

JT:Okay umm where did you live when the civil rights movement was going on?

SB;  During the civil rights movement I was living in North Philly

JT: Ok umm So how did it affect you as a child, didnt you live in Virgina as a child?

SB; Yes

JT; So how old where you when you moved up here?

SB: 19

JT; So how was racism in Virgina? if you can remember

SB: Well uhh you couldnt go the bathroom that the white people were going to You couldnt go to the regular resturaunts there was a special side for you to go into to. Like if you were in town they would hang your hot dogs out the window You couldnt go to the same water fountains they went to.

JT: And how did that make you feel?

SB: It really didnt bother me

JT: So you were okay with being treated not equal?

SB: Not really

JT; So when you moved to North Philadelphia did anything change?

SB: Somewhat

JT: Was it the same?

SB; No because you could go to the same restroom as the white people did

JT: When you were living in Virgina how was the education system down there?

SB: Well it was great

JT; So you were able to get a good education despite everything that was going on with racism and the civil rights movement.

SB; Well the white people had their school to go to and we had our own school.

JT:Well when you moved to North Philadelphia did you continue getting an education or did you just start working like what was your game plan when you left Virgina

SB; Well I attended Night School uhh I took up clerker work then I went to cashier trainer school and then I went to work

JT; Out of everything that was going on at that time what is the worst thing that you remeber happening to you or the people around you

SB: When we couldnt go sit down and eat in resturaunts

JT; Yeah and what did you to try an change things if anything?

SB; Well at that time I really didnt do anything.

JT; Right becuase it was hard, do you remeber anything specific about MLK Jr or the speeches that he made?

SB: I remember the speech he made called I have a dream

JT; What do you remember from that speech

SB; He said that every man would be equal

JT; Where you ever scared down in Virgina or in North Philly to do something not really knowing what would happen and not knowing where you’d end up?

SB: No

JT; Well thats all for today Thank you

SB; You are welcome.



History Interview

Race Interview

Abstract

My good friend Kia Holloway, tells about her experiences with dealing with racism during the sixties and how opinions on race have changed. She explains how most people dealt with race when she was a young child and how she would handle these types of situations now. She gives insight on the ideas and thoughts behind racism and how many African American felt and dealt with this discrimination.


Research

Many people were afraid to speak up against discrimination based on race. Scared either to be assaulted or thrown in jail. Many figures such as Martin Luther King Jr had difficulty finding people to stand up against these problems. King found ways to convince people to stand with him. He did so by both making speeches and by going to jail himself to prove that the cause was worth the punishment.


Sources

http://1960sracism.blogspot.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_from_Birmingham_Jail

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm



Interview

RS: Hi, I’m gonna start by asking you your date of birth.

KH: My date of birth is November 5, 1959.

RY: Okay, and in our experience what are the major changes in the way people talk about race from the 1960s to now?

KH: Now they talk about race as if it was a fad, um and that its going to change just because someone is talking about it more. Now it is more socially acceptable to speak about the subject of racism and to verbally express out loud to social media or to anybody who will listen.

RS: Okay so back in the sixties for a white person to say the N word it wasn't as big of a deal as it would be now, right?

KH: I would have to say that it was a big deal, as equally a big deal then and now. However, its increased in size and venom.

RS: And have you ever found yourself judging people based on race?

KH: Yes

RS: Could you give an example of a time when you found yourself doing that?

KH: All the time.

RS: All the time, do you think, like when you first meet a person that it happens more often or do you find yourself doing it with people that you know. Like you’re more friend with,  that you know  about their life and their experiences?

KH: I would have to say that it happens on a more general basis, because I think its different levels to racism even though, or being a racist or using the word. For me, I'll have to say that it's the blatant racism, then there’s stereotypes and then there are tendencies. And so for me its not a racist where I wouldn't talk to somebody or I would treat them negatively because of our small race skin color differences. Mine would be more stereotypes and tendences, because it just happens to be a cultural item or thing.

RS: Difference?

KH: Difference!

RS: Instead of skin differences more of cultural...

KH: Because most stereotypes are actual truths in general. Good or bad.

RS: And I'm sure that you've witnessed someone being treated unfairly based on their race, especially in the sixties.

KH: Yes I have.

RS: And how did you react to that and how would you react to it now?

KH: In the sixties when witnessing the or experience something racist towards me it was that you just keep quiet, keep ur head down, and just accept it for what it is. There’s nothing you could do about it, except keep quiet and make it to the next thing.

RS: And what about now?

KH: Ask me the question again.

RS: How would you react now if you were treated unfairly or if you saw someone being treated unfairly based on their skin color? How would you react now?

KH: If I was being treated that way, based on the type of person I am, I would use a term considered a source, shrug my shoulders, and basically keep it moven.

RS: Uh-huh.

KH: If it affected my children or my money, then I would go about it diplomatically, but completely, as far as speaking up, out, and against it.

RS: And has anybody you've ever been close to ever made you rethink your opinions on race or has actually changed your opinions on race? And what is your current opinion on race, as far as how people are being treated and how you treat people and how people were treated?

KH: Yea, that was like 20 questions. Imma need you to narrow that down.

RS: Okay, has anyone ever changed your opinion on racism?

KH: I can’t say that anyone has changed my opinion on racism, because I've never really had an opinion. My view of racism was minimal, extremely minimal, compared to others. I empathize, I realize the struggle continues, however it’s not as prevalent in my life as to people in my community.

RS: And has race ever stopped you from reaching a goal?

KH: No?

(Audiotape stops recording)

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”My Time During the civil Rights Movement”

Research: My research was based off of my interviewee response that today the world is still some what segregated. Research shows that other people think the world is still segregated today to it just not a visible or as direct as it was back then. People feel like segregation should not determine our future but all this change that we worked for in the past segregation still became our future people just found a “legal way to get around it.


Sources: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/04/segregation-now/359813/

http://www.npr.org/2014/04/18/304194508/six-words-segregation-should-not-determine-our-future

http://dev.law.fsu.edu/journals/landuse/Vol141/seit.htm




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Date: May 16th, 2014


Interviewee: Calvin William Cooper


Interviewee occupation: veteran


Interviewee DOB: August 30,1951


Interviewee ethnicity: African American


Interviewer: Aaliyah Cooper



Abstract:

Calvin  grew up in Philadelphia. As a child he didn't really experience any segregation or discrimination. In 2014, Calvin still believes that there is still some segregation and discrimination today. He believes that there is always going to be some segregation or discrimination but he will never give up on hope. He also believes that no matter how many years go by blacks will never be treated as an complete equal to a white  person.


Transcript:

Aaliyah Cooper (AC): Mr.Cooper, What do you remember about the Civil Rights Movement?

Calvin Cooper (CC):Well what i remember about the Civil Rights movement at the time, It was a big step for the blacks at this time because the black was really being mistreated ,We didn't have no equal rights or anything and the movement started an, umm how would i say it started  a whole new error for the black people for them to be able to be equal to the whites.

AC: Okay, and being so young, How did you cope with all the discrimination and segregation?

CC: Well basically during my time which was the 50s,i really didnt face a lot of discrimination because i wasn't born in the south, i always been a Philadelphia young man but i have heard about discrimination that the blacks were going through because my mother's people came from down south, Richman and North Carolina  and stuff like that and she would tell me about the struggles and discrimination that they couldn't use the bathroom, they couldn't ride the bus ,it was a whole lot but i never really had to deal with any of it.

AC: Do you know of any other leaders that don't really get talked about, but made a difference?

CC: Only one that never really got talked about and i can't really say particle one person was a leader,but the Black Panthers, they had a lot to do with the black movement too,but they never really got notice because they were always thought of as a militant group,but they did a lot for the blacks

AC: How was it growing up back then?

CC: umm,like i said it was okay growing up back then because i never really faced,um racial problems like the people,the blacks down south. I'm a philadelphian man and i never really faced that discrimination like that.

AC: Between now and then what are some things you wished have changed and what are some things that you wish haven't changed?

CC:  Well the only thing i wish that have changed that people say that we are equal to the white folks now but were not really we still have a long way to go, umm but the thing that i  would say, that i wish would change, i wish that the black people of this generation get a better chance at making their self, Mix in with the corporate world so they can start, you know,their own umm their own generation

AC: Okay and do you feel like in some ways the community is still segregated today,and if so can you tell me why you feel that way?

CC:Yes i do,i feel as though its still segregated in some areas and even in,even in philadelphia its segregation here even though it's hidden well but yes its  segregation still here, umm you won't see it because its not as dormit its not where you can see it but its there.

AC: Do you ever lose hope that things will get better?

CC:  No i never lose hope on that, things always getting better we have a black president

AC: Did you wish for anything during the Civil Rights movement , like did you wish that certain things didn't happen or,certain people survived things like that?

CC: I wish that MLK did not get assassinated when he did because i believe if he was still here today,if he would have continued to live he  would've made a great,great leader for the black race.

Oral History: Dashawn M. Inniss

Abstract:

The women that Dashawn Inniss interviewed was his second cousin’s wife. Dashawn asked her around 12 question about her point of view during the Civil Right Movement and this is a short summary of what she stated. Coney McIntosh was born in Philadelphia and is currently 55 year old. She have many experiences in life because of the actions of segregation that affects many people in that time even though she was 7 at the time. Her parents were hard workers, her mother worked while her father tried to help with the movement by working with Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, and even the black panthers. The actions of her father cause her to be taken and placed in foster care from the age of 5 to 13. Being taken away made her both stronger and angry at the world for putting her through this mess. He moved from foster care to foster care until she was placed in this one household that treated and cared for her like their own child even though they were white and she was black. Over the years she kept pushing forward even though many others cursed her for her skin color, but she didn't care. Education was hard to get,but she got hers; because she kept fighting. Coney is a proud black woman that is proud of the changes such as being able to vote, share restaurants, and so on. She is also proud and happy for all the people that fought for her freedom such as Rosa Park, Eli Whitney, and many other people. Nevertheless, her mother and great grand mother were born in the South but migrated to the North. Her great grandmother was a slave, and her mother believed that Philadelphia is a better place to live. Coney hard a long hard life but believe it was all worth it because it’s all better now; she have children, grandchildren, and a good job all because of determination and change.



Research:


During the interview with Coney, she mentioned that her father worked with Martin Luther King with the movement and was part of the Black Panthers as well. She said her father went out each day to help and stand up for minorities because they were afraid or wasn't able to do it themselves. Although her dad went out to fight she was placed in foster care for this; the government made excuses to take her away stating not because of her father which was a lie.

Based on history, the Black Panthers was believed to be a rebellion organization similar to the KKK except they stood for black people.I say this because they had no problem using violence to be heard, and because they believed that Dr. Kings nonviolence movement wouldn't work and would take too long so they had to put this situation in their own hand. The Black Panther Party was created for Self-Defense by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale to protect minority communities against the U.S. government. The BPP was inspired after the Black Power movement and U.S. politics. Black Panther Party became an icon of the counterculture of the 1960s. The Panthers had many interactions with to police/FBI such as protest, shootouts, and many other situations; now I understand why Coney had been taken away from her family based on her father's actions and involvement with the Black Panthers Party.

Coney’s Father was also involved with Martin Luther King’s movement. The movement was based on ensuring that the rights of all people are equally protected by the law, including the rights of minorities.This was created because the US was being hypocritical with it’s laws towards minorities. In order for their point to be heard and seen, thousands of people including Coney’s father marched, protest, and boycott for everyone in the US to be equal and live happily.



Sources


Black Panthers Party:




Martin Luther King:




Transcript


Interview with Coney McIntosh

May 17, 2014



Dashawn: Today is May 17, 2014, and I’m interviewing.


Coney: Coney McIntosh.


Dashawn: My cousin, and were checking out her point of view of how the, of how she survived through the civil rights movement. Now my first question was, well my first question is when were you born?


Coney: April 1959.


Dashawn: And how old are you now?


Coney: 55


Dashawn: Okay, so uh where were you born?


Coney: Philadelphia.


Dashawn: Uh how was life growing up with racism in the civil rights movement?


Coney: Well during the civil rights movement when uh the movement was really going on when I was only the age of 7 when this was happening, so I did live through it and umm my father marched with them uh to help with the movement


Dashawn: Okay, so you said your father helped with the movement, how did he help and what about your mother?


Coney: My mother worked.


Dashawn: Okay


Coney: My father marched, and he marched with Dr. martin Luther King, he marched with the movement, Malcolm x and so forth.


Dashawn: Was your father in any, like group activities through this. Well you said he marched with Malcolm x and?


Coney: He did a lot of protesting of uh racism. Right he was in the black panthers, he did a lot of marching umm against racism, voting rights, and for non discrimination. for different race color and origins.


Dashawn: Alright, so you said your father was part of it, was you ever involved with the civil rights, movement?


Coney: Just a child of it.


Dashawn: Okay so umm, basically from your past would you change anything that dealt with the civil rights movement if you were ever involved; like would you ever change anything?


Coney: No, not really I think the civil rights movement was a good thing most of it was non violence there was a little violence during that time but not a lot.


Dashawn: Okay uh, because your african american were you treated differently it talked about?


Coney: Yes, most of the time. Named like pick-a-nanny and different things. Uhh I was removed from the home because you know they said my parents didn't make enough money; it was different things going on in my life that affected my life as a child uh. In that movement.


Dashawn: So you became a foster child basically.


Coney: Yes I did.


Dashawn: Okay uh it. Your african american would you ever change your skin color for anything or  are you proud to be african american?



Coney: I'm proud to being african american or whoever I am.


Dashawn: Okay, uh you said you were discriminates so were you discriminated in school or work or anywhere else?


Coney: Oh yeah in school, uh, a lot of time we weren't aloud to sit with the Caucasian children, uh at work. I did private care so a lot of them were uh what you call, stuck in their ways uh, the Caucasian and I've been call names like big fat black B*****. And bastards uh, an unlimited amount of names that were discriminated


Dashawn: Okay, I want to go back to the question I mean the statement when you said that you were a foster child. Did you ever at any time go back to your foster care the foster parents or did you enjoy becoming, I meant well did they treat you right as a foster child?


Coney: Well I was in many of them, uh there was only one couple and believe it or not the were Caucasian that cared for me the best, but when I went back to find them I couldn't find them anymore


Dashawn: okay, it’s at least good that you tried to go back and find them that's very interesting. umm how was things with racism change over time well how did racism change over time?


Coney: oh it changed a lot we can vote we can work freely, your life is not dictated, you can share restaurants, there's a lot of things you can do now that you couldn't do now that you efficiently couldn't do. look at the interracial couples you could not do that at all umm


Dashawn: how as education and yeah?


Coney: how was education during the movement?


Dashawn: for african americans


Coney: they didn't want you to learn, but our parents were pretty smart so if you didn’t learn at school you learned at home.


Dashawn: okay, yeah, or did you learn based on the surrounding like?


Coney: Oh yeah, we were taught a lot about the uhh movement civil right movement and that's one thing they don’t do a lot in school now but uh we had black history and we were taught a whole lot it was many different african americans that made life better for example, Rosa Park Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Eli Whitney, all of them has contributed to the black race and how we live now.


Dashawn: uh did you have any uh like family member that uh before you like, are your family members born and lived in Philadelphia or did they ever live some place else?


Coney: No, my grandma was born in Mississippi and he mother was a slave.


Dashawn: So ya’ll migrated from Mississippi to Philadelphia and that's where.


Coney: From Mississippi, from Georgia, uhh Virginia


Dashawn: So y'all moved from the south over to the east to Philadelphia.


Coney: Some of them, some of my grandmother's sisters and brothers there was 9 of them so I think 6 of them came to umm different parts like New York, Philadelphia, jersey, yeah they did come from south and moved north.


Dashawn: okay uh, do you believe that life living in the US is easier now or similar or different from?


Coney: It’s a lot easier there trying to change it you know uh its all politics but life is a lot easier than it was then.


Dashawn: So uh do you have any like concern about uh how things are going to turn out like do you think racism will ever come back or how things were in the past?


Coney: Not if our young african believe in what they can achieve and keep their heads up they can make it


Dashawn: So you had a long life, a long.


Coney: A long hard life for a long time  my children young and I’m only 55, I’m a grandmother of 24 but umm my life is better a whole lot better foster care makes you umm, I don't know I was a little angry because I wanted to know my family and I was late learning who my family was but by then I was raising my own self.


Dashawn: So how long were you in foster care?


Coney: oh wow, I was in foster care since the age of about 5 until I was about 13 but before that my godparents was trying to raise me because they wanted to remove me from the house. so the god parents stepped in.


Dashawn: it was, it was good to see your point of view and how you went through the civil rights and how it was in your eyes, umm thank you for letting me interview you today and hopefully we just keep looking forward and well not forget about the past but like learn from the past basically.


Coney: exactly, and I want to thank you for choosing me to be the one to give you my point of view I how it helps


Dashawn: as long as I get an A in this class, ha ha . alright have a good day


Coney: You too.


Dashawn: Alright thank you.

RECORDING 2014.04.17 22-16

Oral History- Jason Perez

Abstract

Me, Jason Perez interviewer's my grandmother Candice on racial discrimination, the civil rights movement, race and racism of course, and the role race plays in our old and new society.

While you are listening to the interview and reading the transcription. You will find out and realize some good points made and well answered questions along with well asked questions. Basically what me and my interviewee talked about was racial discrimination and how has people’s view on race has changed and also the role race has played over the course of the last 50-60 years. I asked my interviewee questions like “has she ever faced or overcome racial discrimination, has her view on race changed and how race and racism affects or old and new society.” She answered the questions very well telling me things like “she has never faced or overcome racial discrimination, how she thinks that we all have come a long way with being racist and racism, even though we are not 100% and how racism and race still plays a big role in our society.” We mainly focused on discrimination and racism itself.


Research Portion

One topic i picked from the interview was when me and my interviewee talked about life after the civil rights movement. Now my interviewee did not remember too much about life after the civil rights movement mainly because she was only 11. But since i did not receive much information on that question i asked that’s why i decided to pick this topic and research it. Now according to the link http://www.usm.edu/crdp/html/cd/impact.htm after reading it, it basically says that the civil rights movement in missisipi had it’s good causes and it’s bad effects. How many people have lost their lives, homes, family and jobs but now no longer were blacks denied the right to vote, to eat, shop, and swim where they pleased, and more importantly, to attend integrated schools. It also mentions other things like how African American Charles Young, elected to the Mississippi House of Representatives in 1978, is a former civil rights activist and how Mrs. Julia Holmes, one of the Meridian activists, thought that the movement brought a number of positive changes to Mississippi and american more then bad.

  • I used other links like http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h2876.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93Civil_Rights_era_in_African-American_history but the fir

    Transcription

    Jason: hello, good afternoon, beautiful outside, how are you feeling today


    Grandma-im fine how are you


    Jason-im doing good, thank you for asking


    Grandma-you're welcome


    Jason-let’s talk about what we came here to discuss


    Grandma-what kind of questions do you have for me today


    Jason-i would just like to talk about racial discrimination and your view on race itself. we are just going to talk about on your perspective on things overall


    Grandma-okay let’s start!


    Jason-first question. what kind of experiences did you have with racial discrimination


    Grandma-well i really don’t remember too much of going through anything personally.  the only thing i remember when i was middle school i attended a school that was located in a predominantly white neighborhood. which is now known as fishtown. i remember we had to walk to the 15th trolley stop on east girard avenue. there would be teachers standing at the stop to make sure that we would get on the trolley safely.


    Jason-why would the teachers wait for you to get on safely?


    Grandma-because the majority of the kids that went to the school were puerto rican and african american. Being that we were in a white neighborhood the faculty wanted to assure our safety from the neighborhood kids.


    Jason-what do you think would have happen to you guys if there were no supervision from adults to assure your safety.


    Grandma-the neighborhood kids would have probably jumped us and chase us all the way until we passed to the west side of girard avenue.



    Jason-Okay. So what do you remember about the iconic members of the “Civil Rights Movement”. For instance, people like martin luther king, rosa parks, and malcolm x.


    Grandma-I don't remember much about rosa parks. only what i learned in school. i remember that i was only six when she was arrested. but back then i never understood what he meaning of that was and why was it a big deal. I remember Martin Luther King. With civil rights and his walks and marches for civil rights and freedom. i remember he was a vocal point in the news media. I knew martin luther king was as big as life back then and was one of the most important people in america during that time.


    Jason- That was a very good explanation


    Grandma- Thank you


    Jason- In your personal opinion how do you believe people’s view on race has changed.


    Grandma- Well it’s been a struggle there are still narrow minded people have come a long way in becoming more diverse i still think there are still problems with racism in our society. But not as intense as it was back in the 60’d and 70’s.


    Jason- You talked about how race has changed in a positive way but it’s not 100%. So what role does race play in our society TODAY?


    Grandma- Well like i said it’s not 100%. Today i believe now the minorities have more opportunities. Mainly because of our iconic members of the  civil rights movements. It is what they fought for. I think there is still racism and always will be.


    Jason- Do you believe we are discriminated today?


    Grandma- My personal opinion in the work world, discrimination isn’t what it used to be. but in people in general. i do think that there will always be discrimination. Mainly because of their beliefs. I think it’s still.


    Jason- I  have never overcome or come across racial discrimination. Have you.


    Grandma- No. Not really. I honestly can’t say. As a child i was sheltered. My parents kept me inside. My parents kept me inside because of these reasons. Because of segregation and racial discrimination. I was sheltered. Although slavery was not nearly as much bad here as much as it was down the south. There was racism and discrimination though.


    Jason- Have people ever been racist to you?


    Grandma- No. I’ve never been discriminated against or called names or anything.


    Jason- Have you ever been a racist


    Grandma- No. I would never.


    Jason- Since you live almost 13 years during the civil rights movement. How were things when the civil rights movement ended in 1960?


    Grandma- Well i was only 12. As i have stated i knew what was going on but i was still a little too young to understand or comprehend. I only remembered big things like my own personal experiences. I've never been discriminated against.


    Jason- So you don’t remember anything?


    Grandma- Well remember everything i talked about. Jobs were easier to get, education was better im guessing. From my personal experience it was the same. But there was still racial discrimination and segregation and racism of course. It just wasn’t as bad before the 60’s. Even though we are still racist today it is definitely not as bad as it was back in the 60’s and before then.


    Jason-Have your relatives ever come over racial discrimination?


    Grandma-My sister has. Her husband is african american. They were leaving north philadelphia to live in northeast philadelphia. they were having problems because they were an interracial couple. All of his offers were being declined so he wounded up paying their offer because they wouldn’t let him bargain for anything.


    Jason- Thank you for your time ma’am i really appreciate you taking time out of your day to let me interview you.


    Grandma- You're very much welcome.


    Jason- You're welcome. Have a nice day.


    Grandma- You too.
    st link i liked the most and answered my questions and gave me the most information.

Interview 

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Oral History

Abstract: Ileka Barker interviews her grandmother Betty Jane on the civil rights movement and life around that time. She explained the things she had to deal with in her every day life and how we are lucky that the world has shaped into how it is now, also she talked about Martin Luther during that time period. She was born in 1955 and around that time she was still in her teens. She said she did not experience anything, no one every targeted her or came at her in a negative way.


Research: Martin Luther King was born January 15 1929.As we know Martin had a long history of doing things for his community, later in 1955 he accepted to be the first leader of the negro nonviolent demonstration of contemporary times in the United states.After that he became like the national peace sign everyone came to him and believed in him as hope. He made a huge difference.


Link:

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1964/king-bio.html


Transcript interviewing Betty Jane


IB: Hi my name is Ileka Barker and I’m interviewing my grandmom todays date is may 18, 2014 and its 4:08 pm, I'm going to be interviewing my grandma about the civil rights movement and how it impacted her

BJ: Hello

IB: Hey ma ma

BJ: Hold on a minute sweetheart.

IB: Okay

BJ: hello

IB: Hey how are you ?

BJ: I’m good dear, how are you ?

IB: Yeah, I’m good, can I ask you some questions about the civil rights movement ?

BJ: Yeah I hope I can answer them sweety, wassup ?

IB: How old were you when the civil rights movement started ?

BJ: How old was I when the civil rights movement started.

IB: Yeah

BJ: umm, I was around 10 years old

IB: oh okay, so how was life around the time.

BJ: Life around that time well, umm. How can I say this we didnt have alot.

IB: Mhm

BJ: umm, my mom worked and everything ya know and like if she cooked you know umm. Like say for instance if we happened to have pork chops

IB: mhmm

BJ: If we were lucky enough to have pork chops it was one for everyone one of us that might have been in the house and we had to eat, things were lean, you know it was hard times.

IB: Yeah

BJ: It was hard times we didn’t have a whole lot of stuff you know, it’s almost like kind of now for a lot of people who is struggling, you know black people struggle.

IB: mhm

BJ: Black people struggle you know and if you, it was just rough.

IB: Did you, were you targeted, did people target you ?

BJ: Was I targeted ?

IB: Yeah, since you were so young ? You could see a lot of racism

BJ: No,no,no,no I never got targeted when I was young, no

IB: Okay

BJ: No I didn't get targeted, now I can say that about my mom, my mom was born in alabama and she came up here when she was a teenager but I don't remember anybody in my family ever saying they were targeted or anything. But umm when I was a little girl, you know.

IB: Mhm

BJ: My dad, I know I heard, you had to ride on the trolley cars.

IB: That’s when your mom was young ?BJ: Yeah we couldn't go, I was born but I was still little. You know certain neighborhoods couldn't go into the…

IB: Oh really ?

BJ: Like near Girard avenue they had like white, wherever it was white folks at they didn't want us blacks folks to be at.

IB: Yeah

BJ: You know stuff like that, Have you ever seen Documentaries on the Civil rights movement ?

IB: Yeah we’ve been watching alot in class recently

BJ: Well it was like that

IB: Oh wow

BJ: yeah it was like that, you know how and a lot of times I had holes in my shoes, cardboard in my shoes

IB: How was like school around that time

BJ: Well from what I can remeber you know school was okay and when I first started there was some white people in my school but I always remembered when I stopped seeing them because that was elementary school.

IB: Oh so they weren't there in like middle school and stuff

BJ: I hadn't seen any, I've got to look on my graduation picture from junior high school, I don't think it was no white kids in my class.

IB: Oh

BJ: I dont remeber no white kids being in my class in junior high but I don't remember any white kids being in my class in elementary and kindergarten and first grade because I went to, I don’t remember no white kids being in my classes.

IB: Oh really

BJ: It was so long ago, what you see in those documentaries it’s pretty much like that.

IB: Oh thats crazy.

BJ: I had grandparents who had a club and they made money like that and it seemed like it was the elderly people who had their own homes and stuff like that. My uncle worked for what is called septa now It used to be called the ttc back during the civil rights movement

IB: So like how much has the world changed since then ?

BJ: Huh ?

IB: How much has the world changed since then ?

BJ: It has changed an awful lot except for maybe like a lot of us are still disenfranchised

IB: Yeah

BJ: LIke it seems like sense are president has got elected it seems like racism has raise over head again. You know what I’m saying ?

IB: Yeah

BJ: Now I had people that have acted nasty towards me in stores you know the different lines in the late 70s early 80s and the civil rights movement was over with. You know Martin luther king had died.

IB: Wait so you was

BJ: They don’ t wanna wait on you or something, you know what I’m saying.

IB: Yeah, did you like ever meet him

BJ: Noo, uh uh

IB: He was alive during the time right.

BJ: He was alive, ya.

IB: ohh

BJ: I think he was assassinated in 68 I think

IB: ohh

BJ: I think he did I have to google it

IB: Okay, thank you mama for the answers.

BJ: You know when they bombed the church with the girls in it.

IB: Oh yeah, how old were you around that time ?

BJ: And, wait a minute that was around in early 60s .











Oral history interview (1) (1)

Oral History: Nileka Barker

Abstract:

In this interview Betty Jane talks about her life during the Civil rights movement and anything she can remember. She is African American and grew up in Philadelphia, she is currently 69 years old. She expressed in the video that it was a very hard time and they didn’t have that much to eat and that the world has changed a whole lot over time. She described her experience in direct with white people and she said she was not targeted but she can still see when you go somewhere and in older white people in their late 70s towards early 80s have attitudes.



Research:

In the video she talked a lot about Martin luther king and she also described what kind of shoes she used to wear. like for example one was a real shoe and the other was like a cardboard box. The civil rights of movements were a bunch of political movements for equality,we all know that AAM get had less so of course they didn’t have fancy clothes and such. She said she could remember hearing a lot about Martin Luther king and her family talking about him, he died in 1968 so she was about 23 years old at the time.


Sources:

-https://www.google.com/search?q=martin+luther+king&oq=martin+luther+king&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.4303j0j9&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Civil_Rights_Movement_(1896%E2%80%931954)



NB: Hi my name is Nileka Barker and I’m interviewing my grandma. Today’s date is May 18th 2014 and it’s 4:08 pm. I’m going to be interviewing my grandma about the Civil rights Movement and how it impacted her.


The phone is ringing…..


BJ: Hello


NB: Hey mom-mom


BJ: hold on a minute sweetheart


NB: okay.


BJ: hello


NB: hey, how are you ?


BJ: I’m good dear how are you ?


NB: Yeah I’m good, can I ask you some questions about the Civil rights movement ?


BJ: Yeah I hope I can answer them for you, wassup


NB: okay um, how old were you when the Civil rights movement started ?


BJ: How old was I when the civil rights movement started ?


NB: Yeah


BJ: Um, I was around 10 years old


NB: oh okay, how was life around that time ?


BJ: Life around that time, well um how can i say this

um we didn’t have a whole lot


NB: mhm hmm


BJ: Um my mom worked and everything you know, and liked she cooked, and say for instance if she cooked and if we happened to have pork chops


NB: uh huh


BJ: We were lucky enough to have pork chops, it was one for everyone of us that might have been in the house and we had to eat…things were leen you know, it was hard times.


NB:yeah


BJ: It was hard times, we didn’t have a lot of stuff you know and it’’s almost kinda like it is now for a lot of people who is struggling, you know black people struggle


NB: uh huh


BJ: Black people struggle you know and if you.. it was just rough


NB: Did you, were you targeted, did people target you ?


BJ: Was I targeted ?


NB: yeah, since you were so young ? You could see a lot of racism


BJ: No, No, Nooo, I never got targeted when I was young. No


NB: okay


BJ: Noo I didn’t get targeted. Now uh I can’t say the same you know about my Mom because my mom was born in Alabama and she came up here when she was a teenager but I don’t remember nobody in my family ever saying they were targeted or anything but when I was a little girl


NB: Mhm huh


BJ: My dad, I know I heard that you had to ride on the trolley cars


NB: This was when your mom was young ?


BJ: Yeah we couldn’t go, I was born but I was real little. You know certain neighborhoods couldn’t go onto the ...


NB: Oh really ?


BJ: Like near Girard avenue they had like white, wherever it was white folks at they didn’t want us blacks folks to be at.


NB: yeah


BJ: Have you seen on Documentaries on the Civil rights movement ?


NB: yeah like we’ve been watching a lot in class recently.


BJ: Well it was like that


NB: Oh wow.


BJ: Yeah it was like that, you know and a lot of times I had holes in my shoes and they would put cardboard in my shoes


NB: How was school around that time


BJ: Well from what I can remember school was okay you know and when I first started school it was some white people in high school and I don’t remeber you know when I stopped seeing them because that was Elementary school


NB: Oh so they weren’t there in Middle school and stuff ?


BJ: I hadn’t seen any, I got to look on my graduation pictures from Jr. High school. I don’t think it was no white kids in my class.


NB: Ohh


BJ: I don’t remember no white kids being in my class in Jr. high school but, and I don’t remember in white kids being in my class in Elementary school, and kindergarten and first grade because I went to.. I don’t remember no white kids being in any of my classes.


NB: Oh really.


BJ: It was so long ago, what you see in them documentaries it’s pretty much like that


NB: Oh that’s crazy


BJ:I had grandparents that had a club and they made money like that and it seemed like it was the elderly people who owned homes and stuff like that and then my Uncle worked for what is called Septa right now it used to be called the TTC back during the Civil rights movement.


NB: So like how much has the world changed since then ?


BJ: Huh ?


NB: How much has the world changed since then ?


BJ: It has changed a awful lot except for maybe like a lot of us are still disenfranchised, you know what I’m saying ?


NB: yeah


BJ: Like it seems like since our president got elected it seems like racism has raised over head again, you know what I’m saying ?


NB: yeah


BJ: Now I had people that act nasty with me in stores you know different times in their mid 70s early 80s and the Civil right’s movement was over with. You know Martin Luther King had died


NB: Wait so you was


BJ: They don’t wanna wait on you or something, you know what I’m saying


NB: Yeah did you ever meet him


BJ: No, uh uh


NB: he was like alive during your time right ?


BJ: He was alive, yeah


NB: Ohh


BJ: I think he got assassinated in 68 i think


NB: Ohh


BJ: I think he did Ima have to Google that


NB: Thank you Mom-Mom for the answers


BJ: You know they bombed the church with girl in it


NB: Oh yeah, how old were you around that time


BJ: And, wait a minute. That was around in early 60s.


Oral history interview (1)

Oral History- H.Tapia

In this video Hector Tapia is interviewing three people, James Cush, Dennis Gruer, and Alexander Henderson, on 10 questions that are related to the civil rights movement. Alexander Henderson brings up what Dr. Martin Luther King jr. did in the civil rights movement, and racial profiling in his interview. All three of them also say that they have felt like their rights have been violated by the government. Two of them said it was because of the police, and one of them said it was because of the army.

Dr Martin Luther King jr. was one of the most recognizable civil rights leaders. He was the main civil rights movement leader. The movement was a success, it led to the civil rights act of 1964. On February 26, 2012 Trayvon Martin was murdered by a Hispanic male, George Zimmerman. The reason that happened wa because of racial profiling.

Sources:
http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history-month/the-civil-rights-act-of-1964
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

May 17, 2014

Transcript:

Hector- Hi, my name is Hector Tapia and this is my Civil rights movement project. I hope you enjoy.


Hector-What do you believe to be the difference between human and civil rights?


James- There is no difference, human beings require civil rights to exist in a society together.


Hector- So did ever feel that your rights have been violated?


James- Of course!


Hector- By who?


James- I’ve felt in the course of my life, of course my rights have been violated in a lot of type of ways. Being drafted to go to vietnam was one.


Hector- How do you remember the civil rights movement was it a positive or negative thing in your life?


James-It was a positive thing.


Hector- I am going to mention human and civil rights leaders, i’ll say them 2 at a time, and out of those 2 I want you to tell me which one affected you the most.


James-Ok


Hector- Martin Luther King .jr or Nelson Mandela


James- Nelson Mandela


Hector- Malcolm X or Gandhi


James- Gandhi


Hector- Rosa Parks or Barack Obama


James- Rosa Parks


Hector- What do you consider to be moral?


James- Anything that pertains to human behavior. When its the love its moral, when there is no love its immoral. You have a choice, its either one or zero.(soft laugh)


Hector- (soft laugh) Is it your responsibility to make sure that your neighbors rights are protected?


James-Yes


Hector- What do you think is most important to the nation, religion or politics?


James-It would be politics.


Hector- Why?


James-To have a society that functions; there is so many different religions it would be chaos if you try to run it with religion.


Hector- For the last question, if you had the opportunity to create or change a law what would it be?


James- I would probably want to create a law.


Hector- What would it be?


James- Everyone must love everyone.


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Hector- What do you believe to be the difference between human and civil rights?


Alexander- The way you treat one another, now your talking with somebody with sense. Go on, go on.


Hector-Did you ever feel that your rights have been violated?


Alexander- Yes!


Hector-By who?


Alexander- Police department!


Hector-How?


Alexander-Because the police profile black man, now I’m a gentlemen and a soldier and im a veteran.Put my hat on and I’m a respectable man who has never been in jail, put your hat on like this, (puts his hat to the side), the cops will stop you. I dont think its correct for your hat to be like that, but it doesn’t mean you did anything. Next question.


Hector-How do you remember the civil rights movement was it a positive or negative thing in your life?


Alexander- Positive thing, MLK initiated it other people started it but he was the founder of the civil rights movement.


Hector- I am going to mention human and civil rights leaders, i’ll say them 2 at a time, and out of those 2 I want you to tell me which one affected you the most.


Alexander -Alright, alright go ahead.


Hector- Martin Luther King .jr or Nelson Mandela


Alexander-(Silent for a moment) No comment, they were both equal.


Hector- Malcolm X or Gandhi


Alexander-(Again, silent for another moment) No comment.


Hector- Rosa Parks or Barack Obama


Alexander- Rosa Parks


Hector- What do you consider to be moral?


Alexander- Morality is ethic, sexual, no rapist, that is morality. Dont take advantage of nobody, and act like respected.


Hector- Is it your responsibility to make sure that your neighbors rights are protected?


Alexander-Absolutely correct.


Hector- What do you believe is most important to the nation, religion or politics?


Alexander- Religion!, politics is rubbish.


Hector- For the last question, if you had the opportunity to create or change a law what would it be?


Alexander- The democratic and republican parties would be one because they go against each other and that fucks up, excuse my language, the nation.

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Hector- What do you believe to be the difference between human and civil rights?


Dennis- Well human and civil rights are basically the same thing, I mean pretty close. Civil rights is like when they have different senses for different nationalities. Like back when they changed the law for the blacks to have the right to vote, and stuff like that. Human rights is like when you just get treated like shit by your government.


Hector-Did you ever feel that your rights have been violated?


Dennis- Yes


Hector- By who?


Dennis- Policemen


Hector- What did they do?


Dennis- You see how my car is sitting right here, I pulled up one day and I got a ticket. You see how this corner right here, (he points at corner with stop sign), you know how you have to pull up in front of it to see. They acted like I ran a red light, they treated me like a criminal.


Hector-How do you remember the civil rights movement?


Dennis- I don't remember a lot of it because I was fairly young, but I remember MLK. I remember a lot of people who were involved in it.


Hector- I am going to mention human and civil rights leaders, i’ll say them 2 at a time, and out of those 2 I want you to tell me which one affected you the most.


Dennis- Alright


Hector- Martin Luther King .jr or Nelson Mandela


Dennis- I would say Nelson Mandela.


Hector- Malcolm X or Gandhi


Dennis- Malcolm X


Hector- Rosa Parks or Barack Obama


Dennis- Barack Obama


Hector-What do you consider to be moral?


Dennis- Everybodys morals are different, you know?


Hector- Well what do you consider it to be?

Dennis- People make moral decisions on more on how they were raised, some people werent raised on moral, its kind of hard to answer that question for me.


Hector- Is it your responsibility to make sure that your neighbors rights are protected?


Dennis- Its not my responsibility, but i think its our responsibility to make sure our rights are protected.


Hector- What do you think is most important to our nation, religion or politics?


Dennis- Religion


Hector- Why?


Dennis- Because think a lot of people dont have that structure, no background religious wise. I think if somebody believes in something they will be more capable of making right decisions.


Hector-And for the last question, if you had the opportunity to create or change a law what would it be?


Dennis- Uhh, now thats a good one,(laughs). You got me on that one, I dont know im going to have to pass on that one. There is so much stuff that I don't know what I would change or create.


My Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieaQ283cI2I&feature=youtu.be


Oral History: Samir Smith

Abstract

In this interview my grandpa and I discuss what was happening during the 60’s and what he experienced in Philadelphia during the civil rights movement. It is hard for him to recall the exact dates and his exact age, but he has a vivid memory and remembers exact events. He provides info about other peoples feelings and what they experienced.


Research

The civil rights movement was an international series of political movements for equality before the law that reached a peak in the 1960’s. It often took the form of campaigns of civil resistance such as “The Montgomery Bus Boycott”. There were many civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X. In this interview my grandfather references his experiences and the assassination of MLK and the feelings of people older than himself.


Sources


Transcript

SS- What was it like for you during the sixties? Like what did you experience?


GP-I didn’t particularly have any difficulties as a youngster at that age, but I could see some of the struggles that my mother was experiencing but I think having 5 or should I say 4 other siblings at that time, you know I think it was pretty much carefree because there were no responsibilities or obligations that we had to really attend to being that young but I think we were pretty safe and happy being that young where our parents pretty much took on the strife of everyday living.


SS-Ok so like was there any racial tension or anything while you were growing up?


GP- I think that the racial tension for me being a youngster as I started getting older, say around 6,7,8, and 9 that 4 year span became more of a racially aware environment, especially hearing it from people, other African Americans in regards to the caucasian race at that point, hearing the disappointment and the exclusions and things of that nature and how we were so exempted from going in certain areas even in Philadelphia, I think that there was a border line of racism as I got even a little older around maybe 7 or 8 dealing with the Hispanic community living around 5th and lehigh at that particular time but racism I think was something that was becoming a very real and apparent part of my life between the ages of 7 and 9 so the experiences that I did have with racism as mainly of that hearing all of the ill treatment and difficulties that my parents and you know family and friends that were much older around my mothers age or you know in that age category of concern so that was pretty much the experience of racism during that time and at that time now you’re still talking about 67 to 69.


SS- So like Were you subject to any racial slurs?

GP- You know at that age if I was I probably wouldn’t have even known but being called things like, like the N word and things of that nature I think that it would only come from experiences with my hispanic friends when they got mad at me hahaha and if it came out it came out in that context and I think it made me angry you know at that particular point dealing with those who were my age and probably didn’t really have a sense of the intensity of what it was that they were trying to express either they heard things from racially charged individuals maybe family or friends of theirs or maybe heard it from other areas you know but as far as it affecting me to a great extent no.


SS- Did you see or experience any violence because of race?


GP- I never had an opportunity to really experience violence because of race at that earlier age during the 60’s it was still pretty much something that I think I might have been shielded from to a certain degree.


SS- So you felt safe?


GP- Pretty much yes I think I did my mother and my family did a pretty good job of keeping me safe from it.


SS- So when you were younger How did you feel about the civil rights movement?


GP- At the age of I guess maybe 9, 10, and 11 I didn’t really have a great sense of it but I do remember like maybe around the age of, I can’t remember how old I was i’m thinking I must have been somewhere between 10 and 12, I remember sitting in the living room of my mothers house and there was a big bang on the door and my mother came down hysterically because she had never heard anyone bang on her door with such urgence so she went to the door and asked who was it and it was my uncle, her brother Eddie and when she opened the door he was very distraught he had tears coming from his eyes he rushed in the house looked at my mother and said “they killed Dr. King”. My mother was very upset she put her hands on her face and immediately began to cry and she ran upstairs and my uncle he was distraught with anger and frustration seeing that and experiencing that coming from my uncle and mother I had a sense of what it felt like to be angry behind someone being assassinated especially at that caliber at that young age I knew that there was something that I was feeling that I couldn’t connect with the idea of rage being that young, 11 or 12 or more like 10 or 11 I might have been 9 if he got assassinated in 68 or 69 because every year I turn a year older but needless to say you know as you can hear there is a slight fogginess for racism for such a young mind between the ages of 8 and 11. So that was one of the first times I actually experienced frustration and anger and hostility at a young age so I would say racism introduced me to those extreme human characterisitics which I think are not the dominant human features but they have their place.


SS- So did you know who Dr. King was


GP- I did not know who he was to the extent that my mother and uncle did but in school his name was always mentioned and what he tried to do. And my teachers were very happy that someone like him had taken such a great stand so I felt hope that I knew i could identify at a young age, so knowing him to the degree that they knew and understand him no but I did have what I would say was a beautiful byproduct of what they had for him and what he was doing.


SS- Ok did the behavior and actions of certain people(Blacks or Whites) surprise you?


GP- Can you repeat the question?


SS- Oh did the behavior and actions of certain people(Blacks or Whites) surprise you?


GP- I think that at the age again that I was any strange behavior that wasn’t pure was was surprising that those who were adult could display such radical and inhumane behavior I think gave me an idea that there was something more that I had to look forward to in terms of dealing with people on different level so yes it was very surprising that kind of behavior coming from anybody of any particular race or color so yes.


SS- Did you have any white friends during the sixties?


GP- I can remember having absolutely not one single caucasian as a friend in my youth.


SS- Wow.


GP- The closest thing I came to having a caucasian as a friend were Hispanics who were of course I would say a close hue to that of a caucasian but Their behavior and interaction was nothing remotely close to anything I had heard to that of a Caucasian at that time.


SS- Well Grandpa thank you for your time this concludes our interview.


GP- Well thank you for having me and giving me this opportunity to express my viewpoint and history and to hopefully have implanted some idea and understanding and connection to what it was like having lived or being a child living in that era so thank you.


SS- Thank you too.



Oral History- Goran Bernard

Abstract

During this interview, I, Goran Bernard interview my next door neighbor, Vivian Black. Mrs. Black describes her experiences during the civil rights movement and the privileges she experienced in her career bases however, her husband was not as lucky as she was. She grew up in Washington D.C. but then, because of her many different jobs, she was forced to move to Philadelphia to continue. “I worked first in the Navy yard, Navy department, VA department, umm… what was the other one ?....ummm… VA department, and the Pentagon! “ She also explains the fact that her husband faced a lot of segregation in Philadelphia. He was forced in different parts of the buses, yet he fought for his rights and kept his head high to prove that blacks were the same as whites, they are humans and they deserved the same rights as whites. Vivian Black also expressed her admiration towards Martin Luther King Jr. and how she went to two of his marches back in 1963. She expresses the fact that people from all over the world came to see him present his speeches and that she was very close to him when he spoke.



Research

Vivian Black, the person I interviewed spoke of many different job careers she had during the Civil Rights Movement. She also spoke of a man who went by the name of Martin Luther King Jr as well as her husband who faced a lot of segregation, especially on the buses. Whites, during the 1950s forced blacks to go to the back of the bus. Martin Luther King, however organized a boycott that changed the course of history. Whites would always intimidate blacks to get a rise of them, however Martin Luther King told them not to fight back physically, Nonviolence is absolute commitment to the way of love. Love is not emotional bash; it is not empty sentimentalism. It is the active outpouring of one's whole being into the being of another.

--Martin Luther King, Jr., 1957 He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.

--Martin Luther King, Jr. And many obliged. Dr. King was a man of great determination, He organized marches to unite everyone into one big community. On November 13, the Supreme court ruled that the bus  segregation was illegal. This ensured a great victory for the boycott and an advancement in African American history. Dr. King was a man with great guidance, during the bloody sunday march “Dr. Martin Luther King turned the marchers back around to go back to the church”, two days after that march, Dr. King “led a "symbolic" march to the bridge.” a march into equality.

Sources:

http://www.lib.lsu.edu/hum/mlk/srs216.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selma_to_Montgomery_marches

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/civilrights/al4.htm


Oral History

May 18, 2014

INTERVIEW WITH VIVIAN BLACK


GB: Where were you born?

GB: About the civil rights movement ?

VB: It wasn’t a movement, I was working in a segregated office in Washington DC, it was veteran’s administration. I grew up in my home in Washington DC I went to school in Washington DC, and I went to College in Howard University but I left because I wanted to go work (laughs) and got a job. During the summer they would hire students, from high school, different high schools to work for the Federal Government during the summer. We worked in the summer and went back to school in the Fall, so I was lucky enough to work during those summers and I worked first in the Navy yard, Navy department, VA department, umm… what was the other one ?....ummm… VA department, and the Pentagon! We get lost every day in the Pentagon, (laughs) because it was new to me, shaped like a pentagon, I’d get lost finding my office every morning, and the security, he wasn’t the security but the guard, he would show me where my office was every morning, (laughs), I was lost getting into the new building. But , before I came to Philadelphia, I worked for the Veteran’s administration. And I happened to come here because my job was transferred to the Philadelphia VA. I didn’t know anything about Philadelphia, during that time it was 1954! I did not know anything about Philadelphia, I would only come up to see the Lincoln games, I don’t know if that answers your questions
GB: That’s fine
VB: The Lincoln games and go back home on the bus. But I had a friend who introduced me to a friend here. Her friend whose aunt lived in Philadelphia, her aunt was a sister of a musician W.C. Handy (I don’t know if you have ever heard of him but he was great musician named W. C. Handy, and I stayed with his sister) her aunt. And that’s how I happened to come and with the work for the VA on the Wissahickon Avenue. That’s where I met my husband’s sister who worked at the VA, she introduced me to my husband. That was back in 1954-55.
GB: Well, hum, so, when you did come here, so there still was segregation and all that, so how did you deal with it?”
VB: the office I worked in and even in Washington, it wasn’t segregated. it was work with all nationalities at the VA. And worked together. There weren’t any problems at all.
GB: That’s pretty good, I mean during that time….
VB: Things were different, I heard Philadelphia was really segregated, back in the.. some time ago. My husband told me about things that happened in Philadelphia. But when I came it was everything.
GB: Do you remember anything he has faced ? your husband?
VB:”I’m sorry ?
Me: Do you remember anything your husband had faced during that time?
VB: Know he told me how the trolleys were segregated and they had to get forced I think it was to,I don’t know,  to… to board the buses, to make sure that everything was safe on the buses, I think it was that so to board the buses, ugh, ugh,the service man or something that board the buses to be sure that everything was safe, people riding the buses trolleys, if they weren’t trolleys,then they were buses, they weren’t trolleys… I don’t think they had any black people drove those buses, I think they were all white all that time, it wasn’t until later years that the segregation came about with Martin Luther King.
Do you remember any … ?!!
Martin Luther KIng, I went on both marches with him…. back in 63 and the one that came after that ten year later…
GB: You went on both marches??
VA: Yes!
GB: How were those?
VA: Okay! It was just, Oh, it was just wonderful, to see so many people to see so many from all over the world come for that march in DC, and I was lucky enough to sit right near where he was speaking, so I had an opportunity to almost look into his face, that’s how close I was, my husband and I , to watch him, to listen to his speeches, the other people who spoke…
That must have been quite an experience…
It’s something to remember and it was all because of him that things happened for our benefit. For All people, it wasn’t just working for us, for me, for anybody…
GA: Thank you.

Here is a VIDEO of W.C. HANDY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGqBmlZR3dc



Oral History Benchmark - Calvin

Abstract 
My uncle Jed Dodd, tells us his experience with the Civil Rights Movement when he was a young kid. How this moment shook the nation and turn it something different from what it was. He gave us reasoning of why African Americans had the result they had during the movement and how no one understood reason of this event, and how it really effected people.

Research 
The African American Civil Rights Movement 1954-1968 was for African Americans to have equal access to and opportunities for the basic privileges and rights of U.S. citizenship. In 1954, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the “separate but equal” doctrine. African American leaders such as Martin Luther King lose part of their lives in the rights for freedom. Events such as the Montgomery Bus Boycott, Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and the march on Washington said freedom was coming its way for Amfrican Americans.

Souces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Civil_Rights_Movement_(1954%E2%80%9368)
http://www.history.com/topics/black-history/civil-rights-movement
http://www.sparknotes.com/history/american/civilrights/summary.html
http://www.scholastic.com/teachers/article/civil-rights-movement-overview
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091030011114AAnVuQ6

Transcript

Calvin - Hey Jed, the topic is about the Civil Rights Movement

 

Jed - I remembered it was a defining moment in the United States in which working class people  stood up against the bosses and fought for against rascal discrimination.

 

Calvin - Did you participated in it?

 

Jed -  I participated in the laters years. in the earlier years I was too young to participate

 

My sister - How old where you uncle Jed?

 

Jed - in 1964 I was ten years old by the time the urban riding started in 67 and 68 I was 14 years old. And we began to participate in the Civil Rights Movement. We were marching against the war with Martin Luther King, and we were involved in the poor people marches in Washington D.C. And that's when Dr. Martin Luther King started to pull the anti war movement and the labor movement and the Civil Rights Movement together, and that's why the government killed him. He was lead marches that I participated in. For instant when he was gunned down, he was supporting a garbage men strike in the south. He was standing up for a group of workers who wanted to organise a union. The bosses were ok if people drank out of the same water fountain, but the bosses were not ok if you interfere with their imperialistic wars or the ends of rights on the job. And he pulled all those movements together. He spoke against the vitamin war he started to stand up the rights of labor. At that point he became to trouble some for the bosses and was necessary for the boss to kill him.

 

My sister - Even know all his movement were peaceful.

 

Jed - Yes, he was a peaceful non-violent man.

 

Calvin - Did this affect you and your family while all of this is happening?

 

Jed - We'll it all affected us; I grew up outside of New Jersey in 1967 during the urban riding I was 14 years old, and for instant a lot of people don't understand this, but in New York, New Jersey, a hundred and sixty seven people were killed by the national guards. One national guardsman, most of the hundred sixty seven people that were killed were unarmed and that happen across the United States. People were marching and protesting.

 

My sister - Did you get to see the violence?

 

Jed - Oh yes I did when I was 14 years old, the high school I've when to was occupied by the national guards we had no after school activity. And my señor year of high school was occupied by the state's police. My mother and father were  anti racist and were very supported in the Civil Rights. But those issue affect everybody. And changed everybody and the turbulence in this country is hard to describe unless you're in it or part of it, because the bosses own and they stamp out that history, because in the last 30 years they were able to transfer the greatest amount of welf for those who work for a living and for those who welfare living and that resulted there ability to stamp out those movement in the late 60s and the early 70s, and even rewrite the history so you didn't even know it happened.

 

Calvin - So at school we talked about how African American were affected like how they didn't have rights and stuff.

 

Jed - The bosses would like you to believe the Civil Rights Movement was the ability the drink out of the same water fountain and Civil Rights Movement was  much broader than that.

 

Calvin - Did it affect more than that?

 

Jed - Yes it did Martin Luther King considered the United Stats to be to be the most violent on the face of the earth and actively worked to change those policy at that time was vitamin and so from his prospected you could not have equality from drinking from the same water fountain if you were bombing Asian people in south East Asia simultaneously he saw the two movement as linked and as a result that's what he did.               

History Project Thing

Oral History E. Johnson

Abstract:

Norman King was born in Chester County. Where he was from there was barely any segregation. But, in certain states there was some discrimination. For example some people would aggravate negroes for no reason, police guards would pull people over for no reason. He thinks back then there was no equality. And “WE AS THE PEOPLE” have to come together and discuss the issues of discrimination. He also thinks as of today he still witnesses and hears about discrimination. Dr. King also thinks it was pointless because why did negroes have to be the ones that got the worst.


Research:

In Chester County Norman’s neighborhood was clean, quiet, and nice because they kept it that way in their environment and worked together to keep it nice. Norman says the only reason it was is because the negroes stayed in their place.

Resources: Times New Roman NewsPaper, http://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/content/african-american-residents-chester-pa-demonstrate-end-de-facto-segregation-public-schools-19

http://chescodems.org/?tag=segregation


Transcript:

Eidayya:How are you? I presume you went through the Civil Rights Movement can you tell me your basic knowledge on that?


Norman: At that time between 1955-1965 there wasn’t up north here in pen. We didn’t face any problems because there was no segregation where he came from. In chester county where, I came from they treated us fairly but, there was no equality. Puerto Ricans looked at us as no class. Reason being was there was so few of them so they had to adapt. They couldn’t adapt to the english because we didn’t know spanish. The white man thought of that and so did the black man. In my area they looked at white people #1, black people #2, and others no existence. If you were smart they put us in the front of the class. His dealing of dislike of negroes, black was a harsh, bad word. You were a negro. Where he ran into it wasn’t so much in pen. But, I had a problems in the state of Delaware and Maryland. When negroes went into the state of Delaware they were automatically stereotypes. You were treated poorly. In stores if you were driving in the state of delaware and you drove past a police officer he would follow you and pull you over to say something was wrong. In the state of maryland when a police officer would pull you over the name calling came out those names were boy, for a woman it was “you gals” other things would be what are you doing, where are you going, and you need to get there in the state of pen. If you said something back they would sometimes refer to I don’t care what Malcolm X did, or MLK did they’re not here to save your ass. My block where I lived was 50% white and 50% black. The interactions that we had were friendly because we worked as a unit to keep our block clean. The white people would help you with anything/ home problems because they had knowledge of your character. It was a tough time but, it was a foundational time because they were trying to put up a solid foundation for equality minus race and minus gender. Coming from that time it was hard understanding it because our parents didn’t talk about it they just told us what to do and how to stay in our place and to have an education so we can take care  of ourselves and our families. Finally, not to forget “once” you came. In 2014, we throw race out.


Eidayya: How old were you when you went through the Civil Rights Movement?


Norman: I was 15 years old.


Eidayya: At your age what was happening back then?


Norman: It was rock and roll. The processed hair, they hot combed their hair. They wore high watered pants. The language was kind of hip. Everybody wanted a Corvett or a 1955 Thunderbird. Elvis was one of the top hits. Little Richard was out. Chuck Berry was out. ALot of white musicians tried to mimic him. At that time white musicians tried to mimick black people.


Eidayya: What was happening that involved the Civil Rights?


Norman: If it’s fine they can bombard him with questions. Schools, transportation, the economy. Refer back to the top paragraph.


Eidayya: Do you have any experiences with discrimination?


Norman: In that period no, I was a child. I carried golf bags. But, going into maryland and delaware yes. People tried to do things that would make you get mad so that’s where the inequality came.


Eidayya: How did it affect you?


Norman: It made me always look at everything and analyze it and see what is going to be best for me. That being how can I get a good education, can I take all the things I got taught to the white era apply them to myself and get the same results they’re getting. And it worked, I skipped two grades. i started in the 4th and in november they put me in the 5th. When I finished I went to the 6th grade. When i got into 7th grade the same thing happened. I did half of seventh and went to the 8th grade. I went to college, thenI I went on to medical school. When my white teachers saw I was able to come up to their standards, they pushed me. In college there wer only 12 minorities out of 600. There was no talk of race at the height of MLK. (What happened down North didn’t concern us) It was downplayed because we weren’t in the south.


Eidayya: How has your perspective of race changed?


Norman: I don’t look at it today because it was a problem then. And I’m trying to shed the feeling. I don’t like it. Problem solving has always been on my mind not gender and  not race.


Eidayya: As of today do you still experience discrimination?


Norman: Yes you do. You experience discrimination today. For example, public schools trying to fight charter schools.


Eidayya: When the Civil Rights Movement gained momentum did it change the people around you?


Norman: People my age we were kids we didn’t pay attention to it, No. But, my parents were aware of it and what ever adjustments we had to make our parents made the adjustments that were necessary.

Eidayya: When the Civil Rights Movement fell how did you feel?


Norman: It’s never been over with. We look at the situation and we adjust it with our circumstances. We watched our enviroment.


Eidayya: How did the society change?


Norman: They made programs social media and now those people made the problems more visual. They try to get government more involved in it to make different changes, groups, and causes within the united states.


Eidayya: Is there anymore information you want to add to this?


Norman: No thank you.


Eidayya: Okay thank you for your time.


Norman: You are so welcome.


Eidayya: Alright bye.







Oral History Benchmark - Errion Holness

​Abstract :

I interviewed my grandmother, Phanseta Campbell. In my interview, My grandmother spoke dominantly of a man named Marcus Garvey. She talked on about how Garvey aimed to help the blacks and give them some insight on what they could do. He got into trouble for his actions. This includes the U.S. banning him from coming there.  My grandmother also spoke briefly on some important political men that cared for the poor Jamaican citizens.


Research :
There was a man named Alexander Bustamante. After becoming wealthy and then, returning to Jamaica, he began organizing different events created specifically for the poor people. He also wrote a whole series of letter to their local newspaper, The Gleaner. All of this lead him to be the founder of the Jamaican Labour Party. (JLP) Bustamante also is known as one of the "Founding Fathers" of Independent Jamaica. One of the reasons for that was because he was Jamaica's first chief minister.
Sources :
  • http://www.itzcaribbean.com/history_jamaica_bustamante.php
  • http://jis.gov.jm/heroes/sir-alexander-bustamante-2/
  • http://www.answers.com/topic/alexander-bustamante
Transcript :

Transcript

Date Recorded: May 16, 2014 Time: 5:51am


E.H. : Hi, My name is Errion Holness and I’ll be interviewing my grandmother, Phanseta Campbell.

E.H. : Okay, Um, Well we wanted to talk about how you experienced the Civil Rights Movement? Do you know anything that comes right at the top of your mind?

P.C.: Hmm? …(?) What am I going to say?

E.H. : What ever you know. What ever you feel thats like the first thing that everybody should know about the Civil Rights Movement in Jamaica.

P.C. : This now says that during the Civil Rights Movement, We are talking about somebody [that] you know in it.

E.H. : Eh hmm.

P.C. : Eh heh eh heh. Them pickney write it give me en nuh because mi forgot bout’ dem dey somethin. (Those kids gave me this to read because I don’t remember much about those things) [Editors note: She is referring to my cousins or her other grandchildren who helped her out and she is speaking in the Jamaican Dialect called Patois (Patwa).] Em hm, But This was Marcus Garvey, We talkin about you see.

E.H. : Em hmm

P.C. : Because he was one the men them [and] he was also in the politics business, too.

E.H. :Eh hmm

P.C. : Eh hm, But in this, So this was what he was saying, During the Civil Rights Movement Marcus Garvey was banned from the U.S. What? *in a high pitched voice*

E.H. : Mm, He was banned?

P.C. : Yes.

E.H. : Mm.

P.C. : That mean say he couldn’t come.

E.H. : Ohh.

P.C. : Them stop him from coming and You know why he was banned from the U.S. and was almost jailed.

E.H. : For what?

P.C. : For sending multiple letters to the black community stating that they should return to Africa because the white population will not accept them for their *corrects herself* the color of their skin.

E.H. : Ohh.

P.C. : Because they were black. You understand?

E.H. : Eh hmm

P.C. : He were sending to tell them say they don’t need [to] come or to go back to Africa because they will not be accepted here. [U.S] You Understand?

E.H. : Eh hmm Ohh Um

P.C. : So they find out say him was doing that

E.H. : Eh hmm

P.C. :[It] come to their attention the States Department *rambling while trying to read off of paper* informed the U.S. consulate general in Jamaica to refuse Garvey a visa [to] come back here. [U.S.]

E.H. : Ohh.

P.C. : That’s when they find out what he was doing.

E.H. : Eh hmm.

P.C. : Eh hm.

E.H. : So it was like both sides, U.S. didn’t want him and Jamaica didn’t want him.

P.C. : No. Eh eh U.S. [don’t] want him [to] come back because them find out what he was doing.

E.H. : Oh.

P.C. :You Understand?

E.H. :Eh hm

P.C. : Eh hm

E.H. :Ohh

P.C. : In Jamaica, Now they were banning him from coming up here. [U.S.]

E.H. : Em hm

P.C. : Em hm So they [not supposed to] give him no visa when him come a ahh… *loss of word* Because remember say Jamaica Visa place [is at] America *corrects herself* Jamaica. [That’s where you have to go] to get your visa.

E.H. : Eh hm

P.C. : Them refuse him from getting the visa to come back here because of what he was doing

E.H. : Mm hmm

P.C. : Mm hm

E.H. : And Can you remind me of what he was doing?

P.C. : Mm hmm. Sending letters. Writing the black people.

E.H. : Ohh.

P.C. : They are not to stay here and must go back to Africa because they don’t appreciate them here because of the color of their skin because they are black.

E.H. : Em hm True.

P.C. : Em hm That’s just it. *continues to read off of paper* To refuse.. Yes.. Jamaica to refuse Garvey a visa in view of his activities in political *struggles with word and handwriting* and race agitation of being temporarily detained by the U.S. immigration .

E.H. : Um, So Grandma, Let’s go into.. About You.. Um, In Jamaica Do you know of, without this, any other Civil Rights Leaders? That like really, help you guys back then?

P.C. : Eh mm I only know about Busta.

E.H. : Buster?

P.C. : I didn’t really know about Manley. [I know of] Bustamante and Manley. They were standing up for the poor citizens of Jamaica.

E.H. : Eh hm.

P.C. : Eh hm. Because they were political activists. People who were in the political arena.

E.H. : Eh hm.

P.C. : *rambles while reading paper again* So because of that now, Jamaican citizens were robbed of the opportunity to obtain a visa to be allowed in the U.S. You understand? Because of what Marcus Garvey did.

E.H. : Wait,  who were um refused? The black people?  

P.C. : The Jamaicans.

E.H. : Eh hm.

P.C. : Eh hm. Because of what Garvey was doing. The citizens of Jamaica were refused.

E.H. : Ohh. Okay

P.C. : At that time. Eh hm. Jamaican citizens were robbed of the opportunity to obtain a visa to be allowed in the U.S. You understand? .

E.H. : Yeah.

P.C. : Mm hm Mm hm

E.H. : Okay

P.C. : Because what he was doing was against the American government. You understand?

E.H. : Mm hmm.

P.C. : Cause he was advising the Africans that they should not.

E.H. : ..stay here.

P.C. : You understand?

E.H. : Mm hmm. Alright Grandma Thank You for giving me time

P.C. : Eh hm Baby, So that’s what I get to [tell] I never knew that much about these things.

Interview with Grandma

Oral History Report- Moesha Grant

Abstract:

In this interview, Barbara Grant reflects on her experience growing up as a young, female African American in Philadelphia, PA. She discusses how she suffered with racial discrimination all her childhood years living in a predominantly white neighborhood, like high school and going to public places with her parents. Barbara Grant speaks on protest and sit ins she participated in during the 1960s in Philadelphia.  She talks about famous Civil Rights Leaders and their impact on the black community. Grant also expresses her fear as a child of White Supremacy. Lastly, she presents the concept of how racism is still present in today’s time, but is just concealed.  

Research:

During the Civil Rights Movement, the White Supremacy was very present. The White Supremacy, were groups that believed they were superior to other racial backgrounds and went to violent measures to keep themselves superior. White Supremacy was also known as white power. When the Civil Rights Movement was taking place civil rights activist and segregationist were head to head like never before. Many whites thought the City Councils weren’t doing enough to keep segregation, so they took it into their own hands. In the beginning of 1963, a group by the name of Ku Klux Klan (KKK) came into play. Their goal was to keep whites in charge and to terrorize black people with violence.  The KKK harmed anyone who was black or was trying to stop segregation. The KKK used all methods of violence to enforce their authority in the South like lynchings, tar-and- feathering, and rapes. One example, of their violent acts was the bombing at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham,  Alabama where four young girls were killed.


Sources:

<http://soaw.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=482> <http://exhibitions.nypl.org/africanaage/essay-civil-rights.html>

<http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/mississippi/e1.html.

<http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan>







Transcript



Interview with BARBARA GRANT 14 MAY 2014 5:00 p.m.

Place: At Barbara Grant’s Home


Interviewer: Moesha Grant (MG)

Interviewee: Barbara Grant Age (BG), 56



MG: Today is May 14, 2014 and it is 5:00 p.m. I am interviewing Barbara Grant. So, Barbara. . . . What do you remember from your childhood between the time period of when you were born till’ 1965? What was going on during that time?


BG: Umm…. I was born in 1958 in the City of Philadelphia. Umm.. when I was born the Civil Rights Movement was going on equal rights. Umm.. when  I really could understand was in the period of 1964. In the period of 1964,my parents were telling me different places we couldn’t go why there were so much hatred. And I remember seeing marches from to Washington on the TV why they were protesting because we deserved equal rights. I remember umm.. Rosa Park umm.. sitting.


MG: What do you remember about Rosa Parks and the other leaders that were in the Civil Rights Movement?


BG: I remember when they said told Rosa Parks that she couldn’t sit in front of the bus and I asked my parents that’s not fair. Somebody is tired they should be able to sit where they want to sit, but they said because of the separation between white and black. Umm.. there were places  umm. What I remember about her when she came on the bus and protest. And I thought that wasn’t fair that she should have been able to sit where she want to sit, but understanding that…. white people had to sit in front. They came first and blacks in the back. And it’s just like they didn’t want us to umm.. eat in the same restaurants as white people. Umm.. we had to take the back entrance going places. Umm.. I also, remember umm...  Martin Luther King when he started going, walking to Washington and when they were fighting for equal rights. And when he was talking about you know that we should all be equal as one and the dream he had of one day umm.. we would all be equal. Umm…..Rosa


MG: Did you think whites considered themselves better than blacks during that time?


BG: Yes I do, umm….. yes they did. They considered they were better than us. More educated, had more job opportunities than we had. We were always the last the way at everything. You know getting jobs umm… where everybody like wasn’t equal and ways. The way they thought, they thought they were better than any other race. And as we go into 1965, it started to go from, Martin Luther King umm.. marched for peace. They were violent. They became violent people. Umm.. putting hoses on us, umm..  where they didn’t want us. The  Ku Klux Klan showing the hanging of us. The different umm.. things they would do to us if we came into their neighborhoods and the burning down of the houses and stuff. That frightened me because I thought maybe that would… I didn’t know if it was going on in Philadelphia or not. I know it was going on in the South because my parents both come from the South. My mother especially and especially it was going on near South Carolina. Umm..


MG: Did you think that, that era needed to happen in order for blacks to come up in society of how they are now?


BG: Yes, because that made us umm… better people we strived for more things. Umm.. to prove our point that we were not ignorant people because whites always said that we were ignorant people and we needed to go back to Africa. We didn’t.. all of us didn’t come from Africa. Africa maybe our heritage, but I was not born in Africa, so a white person telling me to go to Africa. Go back to Africa is not where I was born. Umm... I was born in the United States, so I didn’t think that... that was right. But as of now seeing where things have gone we have come a long ways. In which, that movement happened to push us. Even though, today in society we still have prejudice. We still have White American Corporation, but there we are still striving. We still need our young people to strive more to head off where we started a path, so Martin Luther King’s Dream has not died it’s still going forward.


MG: Have you had any experiences like you may not remember the Civil Rights Era, but in general of racism with discrimination or anything like that?


BG: Yes, umm.. I have umm.. We moved to a predominantly  white neighborhood in 1969, which my father wanted me to have a better education.  We moved to Montgomery County and which it was like 10% Black and 90% White. So umm... we had sit ins because they wanted to keep us separated from each other. They really didn’t want us in their schools or to ride their school buses, so even though it was now 1969 and I was going to high school it was... still hard during racial.. And I have experienced with sit ins, where we protested.  You know against that we should be treated. You know it was even in the lunchrooms. Umm… they didn’t like umm.. going, you know getting the same trays. You know calling us “niggers.” At one time, we did get into a fight, which we didn’t like the “n- word.”  Even to society today, they still use the “n-word” and umm... without the protest and Martin Luther King and all the other great ones that walked. That did the march and protested and fought for our rights. I don’t think black people would be where they’re at today, so were still continue on fighting.        


MG: So, do you remember… the Black Panthers during that time?


BG: Yes, I do.


MG: What do you know about them?


BG: Umm... they were umm.. motivated. Like they as I can remember they were a group of people that had they own set of rules. Umm... they wanted to take over and they became the Islamic umm… Movement. So, the Black Panthers were like a group of people that were against a lot of things that Martin Luther King was saying. They figured that we could get things better done with violence and still Martin Luther King was walking  for nonviolence. So, they fought against that you know. They figured that they can do things a lot better.


MG: So, do you think racism is still present in today’s era and time?


BG: Yes, I do(2x), They still have places in the South where  umm..black people can’t drink from water fountains or black people can’t sit. It’s more umm… in today’s society. They try to hide it, but it’s still there. It’s even in our basketball courts umm... You know it’s still here in America… still racial going on. Even  predominant whites are now mixed with blacks, but they still say that they should be with their own race and black women still say that you know that black men should be with their race. But it seems to have a change.


MG: Do you think that change was for the better?


BG: Somewhat, umm… I still think that it puts a gap between blacks and whites, where I think that umm.. As a society today, that when the basketball players, football players, etc. start making money they think that they should have a white woman in their life, instead of a black woman. I don’t think that’s fair because… we are equal. There’s no because you're making money now doesn’t mean that oh.. you can’t have a black wife you know. So, society.. they think that society looks at them better by them making money and have a white woman, instead of a black woman. You know, so that’s I don’t think that that’s right.   


MG: Thank you I’ve appreciated interviewing you.


BG: Thank you very much!


MG: I love your input!  


BG: Thank you very much!                                                 
Unnamed Note

Oral History

Abstract

In this interview Mr.Herbert Steinberg is asked about his life and his experiances and knowledge of segregation. He goes into depth about his life and service in the Air Force, and how he boxed in there. He lived in both the South and the North during his life. This interview talks mainly about my fathers life in the air force, it provides a look at a subject that is not really touched upon in history lessons.


Research

My research was on the topic of discrimination/segregation in the Air Force and Armed Forces, since that's all he talked about. Segregation was not that big of a deal in the armed forces, it was an everyday thing even though in 1948 President Harry S. Truman's executive order directing the military services to enforce "equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons ... without regard to race, color, religion, or national origin.". They always went by the separate but equal rule which meant they were legally free, but not in any other way. After about 5 years of suffering through trying to get their own rights, they got what African-American deserved, 95% of African American in the services were in integrated troops.


http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/1998/July%201998/0798color.aspx

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/WW2/US%20apartheid.htm

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/desegregation/large/index.php?action=chronology



Transcript


[Justine] My name is Justine O’Gara, the person I am interviewing today is Herbert Steinberg. It is Saturday, May 17, 4 pm.

[Justine] Starting with our first question. Did you ever witness discrimination, and if so what happened?

[Herbert] There was nothing I could remember of. Yea when I was down south I did, but not here.

[Justine] Could you tell us what happened?

[Herbert] Yeah, I was going to fight in a tournament in Montgomery Alabama, I was stationed at the St.Frederick Air Force base, and when they sent me to fight in Montgomery, Alabama I had no second. They wanted me to go fight, in the finals. So I went to the Maxwell Air Force Base and I got a friend of mine who was in basic with me *clears throat* and I asked if he would be a second for me, I had to have a second ‘cause they wanted me to fight. I was going to fight in the main tournament, and when I got to the- where we were supposed to fight they wouldn’t let me in cause uhh he’s- they wouldn’t let me in through the front door. That was 1952, 1953. Then they let us through, cause the guy would’ve lost his job, they wouldn't let him through. but they let him through. An then my second wouldnt, couldnt be in the corner with me, because you had to have white people in the corner. And uhh *clears throat*  I don’t think that was right, but they wouldn’t let me fight, so the only one I could get was a friend of mine but he was colored.

[Justine] Mhmm.

[Herbert] So he came with me and uhh they let him through, but they wouldn't let him at the, the be my second at the corner, you had to have white people at the corner.

[Justine] And how did you feel about segregation during that time?

[Herbert] It was wrong. Not much you could do about that, it was wrong. Its uhh, especially the air force.The white people in a one bunk, the color people in the other bunk. I think it was wrong.

[Justine] Mhmm.

[Herbert] We never mixed with each other too much.

[Justine] And when did you first learn about segregation.

[Herbert] Well I guess I heard about it, along long all my life really. All my life I heard about it, different things. Like… Theyre this, they're that, they're trouble makers, this and that, what people would always said this and that, which they aint. Both races are troublemakers of and on, no matter what you say to one or the other you are always wrong anyhow. Y’know what i mean?

[Justine] Mhmm.

[Herbert] Said that about the black people, about the white people, you're a- no matter what you say- I think they both are equal, both are right, and uhh I think they y’know do suffer a lot

people- ignorant people out there. Y’know what I mean?

[Justine] Yeah.

[Herbert] Some ignorant people y’know. I don’t think nothing wrong with nobody. I used to go up to the school and play football with them. They hung with me more than they did with there own kind.

[Justine] And did you participate in any events or marches for the end of racial inequality?

[Herbert] No, never did no, I was brought up in a [foster] home. *inaudible mumbling*

[Justine] Where did you live during segregation?

[Herbert] Philadelphia all my life

[Justine] I thought you said something about being down south?

[Herbert] Oh! Down south. I was down there in the air force, Selma, Alabama. Bad down there. They had their own section, and we had our own section down there, in the air force. I think the Air Force was really racist. They said I went to fight, but uh they wouldn't let me in, they wouldn’t wiht my second I had to get a white person to be second. In the tournament.

[Justine] And how did you react to the end of segregation laws? How did friends and family act?

[Herbert] What do you meant act? Well I felt bad, bought what just told you about. I felt bad about that, I don’t think it was right.

[Justine] Yeah, so how did you react when laws like that were ending?

[Herbert] I don’t think it never ended down there, nothing I know. 1952-1953 thats all I know about down there, so I don’t know what happened after that.

[justine] And what do you remember about the jim crow laws? Like only black people could use this water fountain, and then white people had their own water fountain.

[Herbert] No I never knew nothing about that, black people couldn't go to certain hotels, motels, they had their own sections. Down south they had their own sections, they- mostly blacks in one section and whites in the other section. And a hotels and all, they weren't allowed in certain hotels or nothing like that. Down there, was bad down there, for them. I think it was real bad, down there.

[Justine] And do you think it better living in the south or the north?

[Herbert] For who? Black people.

[Justine] Mhmm.

[Herbert] It was bad all over, it was racist, a lotta people were racist, which I think was wrong.Treat people the way you want to be treated, thats what I always thought, and I was brought up in a catholic (???) St,Joseph's boys home. I get along with everybody, no matter what they were white or black, and I y’know it was the way I was. Somebody did to me it didn't matter what they were, I just didn't bother with them.

[Justine] And that’ll be all the questions


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Oral History benchmark. By Nicholas Clark

Abstract:

Nicholas Clark, great uncle was interviewed by him. This interview was about segregation and how racism was so bad back then. He was talking about he was affected because he was Hispanic so not many people accepted his kind. He also said that it was a very hard time period for his family. Sometimes when he would speak he would shed tears because if how depressing life was in the 50’s and 60’s.


Research:

The main topic that I found interesting was about the black panthers and the KKK. The reason why I found this interesting is because it seems like they would have a lot of troubles with each other. This is the reason why I wanna learn more about them. I also wanna know the difference between the two organizations. Black Panthers were created because of oppression and inequality. KKK was created because of racism. The KKK and the black panthers were kinda similar in many ways but the way that stood out the most was racism they did not like it and always were looking for a way to stop it even if they had to kill people. The KKK also killed many African Americans because they were not as important as others.


Sources:



Transcript

Interview with my hispanic uncle Jose Toledo, About his experience on segregation and racism. Thursday, May 23, 2014 at 3:27pm.    


NC: Alright. Where were you born?

JT:  Arecibo Puerto Rico 1952.

NC: What did you think about the life you had as a kid?

JT:  Poor!

NC: You were poor!

NC: Ahh, What was your least favorite part about like 1960?

JT: 1960’s or the 50’s?

NC: 60’s and 50’s whatever.

JT: It was pretty rough it was hard to get a apartment with my mother because they didn't particularly care for minorities. No matter what you were you could be black, and even a poor white, or even hispanics. They knew you said your name was Toledo or in spanish Rivera Sanchez. They were always refusing you so you were forced to live in slum areas even though we can pay the rent. Thats how they use to treat people those days.

NC: Ugh, Ummmmm

JT:  And still to this day I’ll take you to texas and you can find places like that. Where they hord the minorities into a certain area.  

NC:  Ahh, What did you think about the black panthers?

JT: They were just another organization, but they were not really violent, nothing like the K.K.K. which is your next question.

NC: Yeah

JT:  They were more violent because they use to lynch people. The black panthers maybe got into 3 or 2 little scuffles, maybe 1 shooting but they were always frowned upon by the FBI in those days you know. Mr Hoover head of the FBI use to just spy on them but the KKK use to just run rapid in the South be lynching people intimidating people and now theres I use to go down the south by Virginia I use to run into situations like that, they wouldn't let us into restaurants you know..

NC: Alright.

JT: Because my mother was a dark complexion.

NC: Alright, Ahh did you go to a segregated school?

JT: Actually no I went to a private school I had the brains as they would say I went to a private catholic school. Mostly Italians, and there was maybe about 20 hispanics and about 4-5 blacks.

NC: Ahhh, How was like the racism back then?

JT: Ahh horrible if you wanna say because you couldn't get even if you had the education they wouldn't give you the job… Ok and even if you had the money you couldn’t get into a place to go eat especially in the south. North people were a little for tolerant but they would always be races behind the back. ohh yeah yeah yeah but then they would be turning around talking about you.

NC: Ahhh, How were like you treated during segregation?

JT: Just like any other minority even though I look caucasian but as soon as I said my name was Jose there faces changed and you notice then when you you know I was remember when i went with my priest took us on a little road trip to go canoeing because we were altar boys. They wouldn't let us canoe because the guy found out we were all hispanics and the gut turned around and said “ no I don't take your kind so we had to get back in the bus and go back home. It happened to me 3 or 4 times that way. We went down to D.C and couldn’t even get into a bathroom, we stopped at a diner and couldn't even get in. There were a couple of altar boys that traveled in our group even though they were latin american, they were black african americans. My friend Johnny Complanist who was a police officer he was treated really bad because he was dark skin.

NC: Alright, was it dangerous during segregation?

JT: YES! if you go to the wrong neighborhood or get stuck in the wrong neighborhood you could be a couple of cars following you with chains and bats.

NC: Dang.

JT: and they would be yelling at you they would be hollering at you get out of my neighborhood nigga. Anybody that wasn't there kind was always called that even if they were hispanic.

NC:  Was this a hard time for your family members too?

JT: YEAH! it was my mother got into an apartment complex and a small apartment complex and ahh the owner thought he could take advantage of her and try to rape her and we called the cops and the cops didn't do nothing.

NC: Really?

JT: Yeah after we beat the guy up too my brother and I beat him up and he said im gonna call the cops and I said call the cops and he called the cops and the cops came in and said it is basically a hit and there is no proof. Ahh my mother's word was nothing for that and this happened in Camden they tried to rape my mother.

NC: Thats crazy!

JT: Yup well thats how racism is. You know you go to the south and you run into the same situation and then people say the supreme court says there is no racism because they abolished the voting rights law and as soon as they abolish the voting rights law what do the states do they voted ID so that means its gonna cost you money to get voter ID no saturday or sunday votings no early voting its killing us we just wanna go back to the fifties which is never gonna work cause the the white people are dying off I hate to say it that way but thats the way it happens you know your generation is smarter because you can hang out without getting in trouble.

NC: Thank you for this interesting information!

JT: No problem.




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Oral History- Imani Harris

Abstract


My grandma reflects on her experiences during segregation as a “ Black” African American  who was born down the south ( Virginia ). She begins by giving a great answer and describing what it was like during the 1950, if she felt safe during that time, and everything she said connect on how whites were back in the 1950’s. My grandma knew that it wasn’t going to be living down south but she said that “ I know that something good is going to come and the end”.


Research


Back in Virginia segregation was a huge thing.Segregation is separation of humans into racial groups in daily life. It may apply to activities such as eating in a restaurant, using a public toilet, attending school, riding on a bus, or in the rental or purchase of a home. Jim Crow laws was the main reason that there was segregation. When Martin Luther King “I have a dream” speech to a crowd of over 250,00 people at the Lincoln memorial during the march of Washington. Mr.King called an end to Segregation.



Transcript

Segregation Interview with Girlene Harris

By Imani Harris

ME:What was it like in the 1950’s in Virginia?

GM:As a child me growing up, it was – we couldn’t go to the places white folks went to. It was certain place we couldn’t eat. We had different places to go to the movies. The whites had their section, we had another section. It was – mostly what the black folk could do was work in the white man’s kitchen or in the fields.  Ah, we had our own churches. They had theirs. You know you didn’t mingle nowhere with them.  Like hear now everyone go to the ball game together – you didn’t go to no games or nothing with them and mostly they called you nigger.  We went to school there was a white school and a black school. They had the better buses and they ride by us and called us niggers. We walked to school.

ME:How old were you during this time?

GM:I was born in 1940, so in the 50’s I was in my early teens – 1940 to 1950 I was ten – I was in my early teens.

ME:How did you feel about segregation?

GM:It – segregation- it didn’t bother me because it never segregated our school or anything until after I grew up.  I was mostly out of school when they combined us –you know they started really going – (pause).  When I graduated from school, I graduated in 1960, and the whites and blacks still wasn’t going to school together. I think they started 2-3 years after but ah and the simple reason is – I’m up here- I left home was you really couldn’t find a job down there doing nothing unless it was working in a white man’s kitchen or if you work in a restaurant you had to work in the kitchen.  You know and all it was still segregation even though Martin Luther king was trying to break it, the civil rights was going through but it was still that you knew it was still segregation down there cause the way white folks treated you. You couldn’t go to a store and you couldn’t get waited on because you were black and they watched, they looked at you liked hey. And it’s still going on down there in some parts. You know they still prejudice, there’s a little town called Bowling Green down there that just as prejudice as they could be, if you bat your eye when you going through you’ll lose it but their still prejudice.

ME:How did you manage to keep a cool temper with the white’s doing that?

GM:My parent they had a lot to do with it. My mother and fathers was, we were sharecroppers. It’s like a whole lot of people don’t know what sharecrop is, that’s when you ah rent the land from the white man and cause you didn’t have no land you rent from the white man and he got the best portion of the money you made off the crops – that’s sharecropping and we were like that that’s how we were raised and brought up. And momma and daddy had an even temper, you know you got mad, you didn’t fly off the handle and get a gun and shot them. You, ah, was still in Jim Crow they would hang you in a minute. You had an even temper, you knew your place.  

ME:How did you get an education?

GM:I went to a public school. We had public schools down there, ah.  I went to public school from the first grade to the twelfth grade.  I graduated from union High School.  I started out in a little school, a two room school called Central Point, two rooms.  It was from prepemial to seventh grade.  Then I went to fill from seventh grade to the eighth grade and then you went to High School. It wasn’t know, I wasn’t knox middle school. It was elementary and high school and I started in ninth grade in union High School and I graduated from Union High School in 1990, sorry 1960.  

ME:How was the education? Was it bad? Was the books all ripped and trashy?

GM:No, we had good books.

ME:Compared to the whites?

GM:Compared to the whites, not really. Some of us didn’t know the differences. We had a book. One thing about it when they started to talk about integrating down there our schools, they built the black kids brand new schools for not to let the white kids come. We got brand new schools and it went on for years. Then they put us all together but we didn’t have white teachers. We had all black teachers. We had good teachers.

ME:Did you feel safe?

GM:Very safe – we didn’t have the fighting. We had no cop in the schools, no police, no nothing in the school, like it is here. Even tempered, we had good teachers. They thought a lot of kid and you felt safe around where I lived at, cause we live in the country it wasn’t to many of us.  

ME:Did you hear about the students, Little Rock Nine? The nine black students that went to an all-white school?

GM:Down south further down south yeah I heard about it. I didn’t like it.

ME:You didn’t like the way they were treated?

GM:Naw, I did like the way they were treated. And I remember the ah boycotting of the, when they sat at the lunch counter. Can’t think that. But Little Rock Arkansas stood in the door. That did, it wasn’t right because everyone is entitled to an education. Black or White.

Thank you for your time Grandma
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Oral History Benchmark by Idamis Torres


Abstract

Tilda Elias, a 70 years old, Puerto Rican lady, recalls some of her memories about the time of the 1960’s. She’s shared with me many of the aspects in which life was difficult for the Hispanic community during this time. Mrs. Elias points out that while attention was focused on blacks and whites achieving equality, the Hispanic community was also struggling to obtain equality in this country. Aspects such as education, learning a new language, work and labor were some of the many obstacles the Latino community had to overcome during this time. She talked about how she was teased in school because she didn't know the language, and how she had to drop out of school, get a job, and support her family.This interview was originally in Spanish but it was translated to English by Idamis Torres.

Research

Throughout the 1960s, about 900,000 Latinos were facing unequal rights in the United States. In terms of education, in 1963,Miami’s Coral Way Elementary School, offered the nation’s first bilingual program in public schools. It was not until 1965, that more than 50,000 Hispanics received a job contract in the United States, this was the result of a boycott organized by grape growers. During the 1960s hispanics made their fight for equality even more visible, modeling their actions in the successful African American struggle for civil rights. After the huge impact the civil rights movement had in the Hispanic community, the 1970s were more successful years. In 1972, another essential right was given to the Latino community, the opportunity to register and vote. Today, there’s approximately 38.8 million Hispanics in the United States, the largest and fastest growing minority.

The facts included in the previous paragraph, mostly coincide with the story told by my interviewee. The time of the 1960s was a rough one for the Latino community, but the situation has improved over the years. Mrs. Elias pointed out two of the most important issues during the interview, which were education and work opportunities. Today, being the largest population of immigrants in the United States, Hispanics enjoy of these without any exception. I can conclude that in a way, we've all come across equality.



http://hushcivilrights.tumblr.com/post/409451928/1960s-civil-rights-for-latinos (education, labor, and language issues)

http://knightpoliticalreporting.syr.edu/?civilhistoryessays=a-civil-rights-history-latinohispanic-americans (statistics, organizations that helped Hispanic community)

http://www.tolerance.org/latino-civil-rights-timeline (Latino civil rights timeline)


*Translated to English by Idamis Torres*


Interviewee: Tilda Elias

Interviewer: Idamis Torres

May 21st, 2014.


IT:”Today is May 21st, 2014. My name is Idamis Torres, and I’m going to interview Mrs. Tilda Elias. Ok. Good afternoon Mrs. Elias.”

TE: “Good afternoon.”

*Both laugh*

IT: “Well, my first question is: When did you move to the United States?”

TE:”I came to the United States in 1957.”

IT: “Okay. You know, there’s always been many problems, with racism. Did you ever experiment racism?”

TE: Yes.

IT: “Yes? Eh…”

TE: “By coloured people.”

IT: “Coloured People?”

TE: “Aha.”

IT: “So, how did you feel during the time of 1960’s, I mean, how people from different racial groups were treating each others?”

TE: “Very bad, because when we arrived here from Puerto Rico, African Americans didn’t like us being here. I felt hurt because they always had something with Puerto Ricans. You know?”

IT: “I think that’s odd because at first, they were also brought here.”

TE: “I know, yeah.”

IT: “Do you know anything about the Civil Rights Movement?”

TE:”No.”

IT: “No? Okay. Well, you kind of told me this but, since you’re not black or white, how was being Puerto Rican at this time?”

TE: “*Laughs* Being Puerto Rican at that time was a problem because according to them, we came here to take their jobs. They didn’t really like us. I didn’t know English so, in school….”

IT: “Was it hard?”

TE: “They bullied me because I didn’t understand the language. But, I had to go to school. It didn’t matter if you didn’t know the language, the authorities said you had to.”

IT: “An obligation?”

TE: “An obligation, yeah.”

IT: “Um, how was your education?”

TE: “I… I… never graduated high school, I had to get a job to help my family.”

IT: “Oh, Do you, or did you in the past feel like every racial group is treated equally?”

TE: “No.”

IT: “No?”

TE:”No.”

IT: “Okay. *laughs* Were there discrepancies between people of the same race?”

TE: “No.”

IT: “No? They always had the same opinion?”

TE: “Yes.”

IT:”How old were you in 1960?”

TE: “I was like 19, something like that.”

IT: “Um, what do you know about segregation? I mean, I asked you before and you said, you didn’t really know anything. So, How do you feel, or felt at that time about discrimination?”

TE: “About discrimination? I felt bad because, there’s was plenty of discrimination against Hispanics at that time, and we couldn’t protest because one part of this country was for the whites, and the other for the blacks, and then we were in the middle.”

IT: “Mhm…”

TE: “We didn’t know where to go.”

IT: “I think, it’s still like that in some ways.”

TE:”Yeah…”

IT: “How do you think the issues with race have changed over the years?”

TE: “I think it has changed a lot, as now, the President is black, I think some African Americans think they own America.”

IT: “*Laughs* Yeah. Well, okay, my last question is, How do you see race? What does it mean to you? What do you think, in terms of Hispanics, African Americans, and whites?”

TE: “Well I think today, the majority is black, and the minority is white and hispanics.”

IT: “Yeah, we could say that. But, that was all for today…”

TE: “*Laughs*”

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